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Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:45 am
by HxPaul
I asked this question in another thread.
Is there any advantage to using fully synthetic oil,as opposed to semi synthetic oil ? I genuinely dont have a clue what the advantages are and would be grateful if someone could enlighten me.

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:08 am
by coaster
You will get a LOT of apposing opinion on this but my view is that fully synth is only really justified in highly tuned and or loaded engines. For engines with road type tunes then a semi synth is more than good enough. Eden on here has clocked up thousands of rally miles on high power engines using Rockoil Groundsman semi synth (sold for strimmers and chainsaws) with no lubrication issues whatsoever. I am also using this at the moment and can fault it, bought mail order in 5 litre cans it works out at about £2.50 a litre 8-)

For town or local riding, any mineral oil will serve but look for low smoke or low ash on the bottle as some can be a bit smokey.

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 4:29 pm
by IaninDorset
It is a bone of contention and many schools of thought and opinion on this issue, I did remember seeing a quite good article pointing out that a standard Lambretta or Vespa engine really wasn't designed to take synthetics as the oils are thinner and don't stick to the liners and bearings well enough on a standard engine as well enough as a good mineral oil would.

I use Rock City in my T5 and it does the job a treat, I used to use semi synth in my old Bajaj and it felt lumpy so chucked some Asda's finest in there and it ran like a dream :)

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:52 pm
by mark1
I've just started using groundsman as well, 200 miles done and no concerns...........yet lol

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:57 pm
by Eden
these are the kind of miles that groundsman has to deal with in my engines.... its a great oil


Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:56 pm
by IaninDorset
Theres some nasty junctions on the M3, I nearly got wiped out by Chris Evans who swooped across the chevrons and three lanes in a merc, caught up with him at Fleet where I was going to rip his ginger head off his shoulders Grrr Bloke wasn't even sorry he nearly wiped out a rider :(

Think you gave the twistygo a bit of a worry, all that power and theres your ol' lammy just eating the speedo ^^

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:09 pm
by jonoy
what colour is rock oil groundsman

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:12 pm
by Eden
red

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:55 pm
by sunrisemac
Watching your video, I'm sold on the idea of Groundsman

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:59 pm
by jonoy
Eden wrote:red


thanks

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:02 am
by jonoy
where do you order your groundsman from ?

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:10 pm
by Eden
Search for tines rock oil on google

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:23 pm
by jonoy
thanks

looks like 2 is it the semi synthetic

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:12 pm
by coaster
Yes, semi synth

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:35 pm
by jonoy
thanks

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:22 am
by collector1967
My god just seen 5lts for £12.21 + vat, i paid £13.75 for 1 ltr of Castrol power 1, i will be changing to groundsman.

Cheers Ian :D ;)

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:59 am
by collector1967
Just ordered 5 ltrs ,£24.00 all in, well pleased :D

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:11 am
by Eden
I order it in 30 litre lots as it works out even cheaper due to postage being the same no matter how much you order.
used 36 litres this year already so i wish i had ordered 60 litres back in january.

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:30 pm
by Rich Oswald
collector1967 wrote:Just ordered 5 ltrs ,£24.00 all in, well pleased :D


That's gone up a bit from £12 + vat?

Re: Fully synthetic oil versus semi synthetic oil

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:29 pm
by collector1967
Bloody postage £8.00, still a good price i think :D