Technical help for Series one, two and three Lambrettas. Models include the Li, Li Special, TV, SX, GP, Serveta and API/SIL models
by Danbretta » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:19 pm
Hi All.
Bit of advice needed please, Popped out on my first ride of the year last week and scooter died on me. Was using a denso resistor plug that appeared to fail. Could it be an unlucky one or should I not be using a resistor spark plug, does it make any difference at all running a standard scooter LI150S all original 6v points etc
..dropped in a spare standard NGK one and it fired up first time. The denso one hadn't done that many miles that's why I'm wondering if it's not intended.
Thanks in advance.
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by Fast n Furious » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:41 pm
If your engine has a plug cap with an integral resistor then you need an unsuppressed plug or visa versa. If you have a suppressed cap and a suppressed plug then this will severely impact on the spark voltage leading to a fouled plug.
An unsupressed cap with an unsuppressed plug will bug nearby radios and send a SIP speedo doolali.
Unscrew the plug cap from the lead and use a multimeter to measure the resistance across the input / output. A suppressed cap will usually show around 5000 ohms. An unsupressed cap will show near zero ohms.
Do the same with your spark plug to confirm that also.
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by Danbretta » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:41 am
Thanks for your reply. That all makes sense to me, explains why the plug had a week spark, I'll grab my multimeter and check the cap out as you suggest.
Another piece of knowledge in my locker, thank you FnF
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by Warkton Tornado No.1 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:27 pm
I’m not wishing to contradict, but despite OEM plug caps being suppressed, a points based ignition should not be suppressed according to tuners such as Bell, who also advocates fine wire plugs which are worth having if not paying a ridiculous premium IMO.
Suppression was applied/legislated upon vehicles to avoid interference with televisions etc but that no longer appears to be a problem.
AF Rayspeed & probably many other dealers sell excellent Champion non suppressed plug caps.
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by Fast n Furious » Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:20 pm
To clarify:- Inductive ignitions should have 1K ohm of suppression and capacitive discharge 5K ohm.
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by ULC Soulagent » Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:17 pm
Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:I’m not wishing to contradict, but despite OEM plug caps being suppressed, a points based ignition should not be suppressed according to tuners such as Bell, who also advocates fine wire plugs which are worth having if not paying a ridiculous premium IMO.
Suppression was applied/legislated upon vehicles to avoid interference with televisions etc but that no longer appears to be a problem.
AF Rayspeed & probably many other dealers sell excellent Champion non suppressed plug caps.
Yip, I use both plug n cap in Non resistance flavour just for a better spark
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