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Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby TS1-200 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:15 pm

A mate has qcquired an SX200 definitely a genuine frame, numbers are perfect, it does need work, but it has a chrome ring, now as far as I know it shouldn`t have a chrome ring, but it is a very early example, within the first 500 made, I know frame rings stopped about April 1965 ish, but is there a likelihood that this is an anomaly, as its early ?
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby pacemaker » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:33 pm

Never seen one but you can never say never with Lambretta. Photo would be a good idea.
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby wurzel » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:18 pm

Be an interesting anomaly especially as the last few TV 175 and 200s were non chrome ring.
So with the chrome ring disappearing before the end of the previous production model it
would seem really strange to then go back to chrome ring production nearly 500 frames into
a new frame run and I would imagine that if there are no more within the first 500 SX200s
that would be it would be even less likely.
Would be nice to see the frame numbers to see how authentic they are, although as Pacemaker
says stranger things happen
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby gizmo » Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:55 pm

Could someone at some point just added a chrome ring and headset to suit. I know I've done some strange conversions over the years
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby ToBoldlyGo » Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:45 am

It's not Spanish is it?
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby HxPaul » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:35 pm

ToBoldlyGo wrote:It's not Spanish is it?

+1.Thats what it sounds like.Do the frame and engine numbers begin with a 5.
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby St George » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:06 pm

There is a 1975 White SX200 with a chrome ring on ebay, Spanish ? I have one which is newer which has no ring.
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby Rich Oswald » Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:50 pm

If it is Spanish it will have dashes instead of stars on the frame stamp.

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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby Adam_Winstone » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:04 am

I was also going to point out that TV200s, and other IIIs, had already made the change to non-ring so I see no reason for even the earliest SX200 to have one. Not even the very earliest of promo shots show any chrome ring examples.

I would question such an example.

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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby TS1-200 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:12 pm

Frame number begins with 830xxx, I am going to have a look on Saturday, may take some pictures
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby St George » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:57 pm

Mine starts with 870 and is a 1989 SX200 from Spain, hope this helps.
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby HxPaul » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:13 pm

St George wrote:Mine starts with 870 and is a 1989 SX200 from Spain, hope this helps.

Spanish Jets also are stamped SX 200 on the frame and engine but the numbers begin with a 5.The last of the Spanish SX 200's were built from 1980 to 1990 and they were called SX200E,I dont know what the frame number is on them.Italian's changed from SX's to GP's in Jan,Feb of 1969.
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby ULC Soulagent » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:04 pm

My 78 Jet 200 starts with 5581**, hope this helps also
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby wurzel » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:55 am

It would also be worth checking that the IGM number is IGM 4355 OM and it should be
at the end of the frame number after the last star.
I've seen quite a few dubious frames of late and most of these have had IGM numbers
from different models as people don't realise they should correspond to the model as well
as the prefix number.
I've even seen a TV200 with an IGM number and wrong spacing between the Innocenti
mark and the first star.
There seems to be a lot of it about at the moment
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby Adam_Winstone » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:33 pm

^... I too have come across a ‘genuine’ dealer restored SX200 that had a perfect looking frame, which turned out to have an SX150 IGM number.... with stripping paint back revealed a filled and restamped ‘200’ :cry:
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby TS1-200 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:53 pm

Here are a couple of pictures one showing the frame number with paint removed, ( it does have the usual Innocenti logo to the left of the SX200)
Sorry but its a photo of a photo
And the other showing the frame ring, which doesn`t look correct anyway. All looks ok
https://www.flickr.com/photos/142275039@N07/39636156772
https://www.flickr.com/photos/142275039@N07/38957979414
If above links don`t work try these.
https://ibb.co/hOWnE6
https://ibb.co/kvtngm
Last edited by TS1-200 on Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:53 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby nickw » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:27 pm

The links don't work for me. It says:
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It appears you don’t have permission to view this photo or video.
Here are some of today’s best photos instead:
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby TS1-200 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:39 pm

Well it works ok for me, used to use another photo site but that has ceased, not sure what I can do, apart from use another photo site, Have added 2 more links as above
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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby Rich Oswald » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:24 pm

Works for me, the frame stamping looks genuine enough to me but the IGM is not clear enough to be sure. Can you post a pic of the IGM please.

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Re: Chrome ring SX200 ?

Postby pacemaker » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:07 pm

Frame number look genuine but cannot make out IGM so cannot confirm.
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