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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby Psychedelicropcircle » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:36 am

I was up north last weekend applecross to glencoe village 125 miles used 9 litres on the button GT186.
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby burnside » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:57 pm

Psychedelicropcircle wrote:I was up north last weekend applecross to glencoe village 125 miles used 9 litres on the button GT186.


What's your setup with the GT186 as in pipe, carb and jetting?
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby Psychedelicropcircle » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:45 pm

burnside wrote:
Psychedelicropcircle wrote:I was up north last weekend applecross to glencoe village 125 miles used 9 litres on the button GT186.


What's your setup with the GT186 as in pipe, carb and jetting?


Mb clubman 28mm phbh av266 x13 125 Main jet. Using a cyclone on it as well which I think makes it a little less fuel efficient.
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby Rich Oswald » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:27 pm

Psychedelicropcircle wrote:
burnside wrote:
Psychedelicropcircle wrote:I was up north last weekend applecross to glencoe village 125 miles used 9 litres on the button GT186.


What's your setup with the GT186 as in pipe, carb and jetting?


Mb clubman 28mm phbh av266 x13 125 Main jet. Using a cyclone on it as well which I think makes it a little less fuel efficient.


My Cyclone improved the fuel efficiency, isn't that the norm?

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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby holty » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:46 pm

i would expect a 5th gear to improve your mpg but that would be reliant on having enough power to pull the 5th gear, without having to hold it at wide open throttle, final drive ratio will be very important as will engine set up, having your jetting bang on should give best results for economy, a good set up on a rolling road will help with your mpg for sure.
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby Psychedelicropcircle » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:03 pm

Pre cyclone I done aviemore to home 136 miles in a Oner. With cyclone ran out about 5 miles short. Appreciate I could have had head winds etc.
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby burnside » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:30 am

Psychedelicropcircle wrote:
burnside wrote:
Psychedelicropcircle wrote:I was up north last weekend applecross to glencoe village 125 miles used 9 litres on the button GT186.


What's your setup with the GT186 as in pipe, carb and jetting?


Mb clubman 28mm phbh av266 x13 125 Main jet. Using a cyclone on it as well which I think makes it a little less fuel efficient.


That would explain why you are getting better figures than me, I'm running 30mm phbh and franspeed race, I do tend to ride it quite hard and it is rich mid-range but getting around 10 miles per litre, hoping to get another 1 or 2 miles per litre with some fine tuning
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby Swat » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:45 pm

My Cyclone improved the fuel efficiency, isn't that the norm?

Rich'[/quote]

Rich - Not if you're Binny !! or trying to keep up with him, then its 10 miles/litre if you're lucky
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring

Postby Bilko » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:16 pm

Solid Air wrote:I have the small-block GT Bilko and use it all year round, including for the Euro/C2C etc. In about 10k miles I haven't had any reed issues and they are doubled up.
I would advise checking that the casting allows the reeds to open fully though (I needed a manifold packer) and whether the manifold touches the frame (might need to use eccentric cones and/or fettle the manifold).


When doubling up the reeds, what side do you double or do you double both?

Also. when you say check reeds fully open, how much is fully open?

Thanks
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby ULC Soulagent » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:41 pm

I think the reeds closer to the piston needed too be doubled up :D
And optimum opening is around 7-9mm on the petal stops
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby Scooterdude » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:04 pm

ULC Soulagent wrote:I think the reeds closer to the piston needed too be doubled up :D
And optimum opening is around 7-9mm on the petal stops
isn’t that the main problem, there are no stops?
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring

Postby Solid Air » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:02 pm

Bilko wrote:
Solid Air wrote:I have the small-block GT Bilko and use it all year round, including for the Euro/C2C etc. In about 10k miles I haven't had any reed issues and they are doubled up.
I would advise checking that the casting allows the reeds to open fully though (I needed a manifold packer) and whether the manifold touches the frame (might need to use eccentric cones and/or fettle the manifold).


When doubling up the reeds, what side do you double or do you double both?

Also. when you say check reeds fully open, how much is fully open?

Thanks


I doubled up on both sides. The reeds fouled on the inlet casting so used a packer, 3mm I think, to lift them away from the metal that they touched when opening... hope that makes sense
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby Bilko » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:53 pm

Scooterdude wrote:
ULC Soulagent wrote:I think the reeds closer to the piston needed too be doubled up :D
And optimum opening is around 7-9mm on the petal stops
isn’t that the main problem, there are no stops?


Thanks Shane

Scooterdude wrote:
ULC Soulagent wrote:I think the reeds closer to the piston needed too be doubled up :D
And optimum opening is around 7-9mm on the petal stops
isn’t that the main problem, there are no stops?


Correct

Solid Air wrote:
Bilko wrote:
Solid Air wrote:I have the small-block GT Bilko and use it all year round, including for the Euro/C2C etc. In about 10k miles I haven't had any reed issues and they are doubled up.
I would advise checking that the casting allows the reeds to open fully though (I needed a manifold packer) and whether the manifold touches the frame (might need to use eccentric cones and/or fettle the manifold).


When doubling up the reeds, what side do you double or do you double both?

Also. when you say check reeds fully open, how much is fully open?

Thanks


I doubled up on both sides. The reeds fouled on the inlet casting so used a packer, 3mm I think, to lift them away from the metal that they touched when opening... hope that makes sense


Thanks, yes it does.
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Re: Fuel Economy For Small Block For Touring!

Postby ULC Soulagent » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:01 pm

Scooterdude wrote:
ULC Soulagent wrote:I think the reeds closer to the piston needed too be doubled up :D
And optimum opening is around 7-9mm on the petal stops
isn’t that the main problem, there are no stops?

No wonder they breaking then :|
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