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Rather than hijack the CST3 thread I think ill start a new one....

From the CST thread...
" I have double reeds. Just spoken to Richard (Taylor) now and he advises against thicker reeds. It’s not a massive problem but I’d let my spare reeds were at home. "

It was a massive problem for me 80 miles from home with no spares when mine went....

Im a bit confused now,....

GT186 / 200 / 240 + clubman = single reeds ???????????
GT186 / 200 /240 + expansion = double reeds or not ??????????? -

What was the reason for Richard advising against doubling up ?

What is the effect on engine performance / characteristics with double reeds?

...........And why do they seem to break frequently with a GT / expansion set up?
Is there another way to prevent this occurring?

I use Boysen dual stage reeds on my TS1.
I find them a significant improvement over the usual single stage ones out there.
I find they make the engine power delivery a lot more tractable.
I cant see it being any different with the 186.

Or get the ones Darrell Taylor said he sells/uses.

Alternatively buy some 0.40mm carbon sheet from PM Tuning and cut your own.

Scooterdude wrote:Alternatively buy some 0.40mm carbon sheet from PM Tuning and cut your own.

I have cut my own from the 0.25 Polini Carbon sheet fro PM. They have lasted longer and tend to start to "fray" when wearing rather than just snapping as the supplied reeds seem to do.
The carbon reeds seemed to have a bit more of an "on/off" feel about the ride which I put down to the carbon fibre being much stiffer. I have now gone back to the original reeds as I feel they provide a better ride but replace them yearly which has worked for me.

jonw wrote:

Scooterdude wrote:Alternatively buy some 0.40mm carbon sheet from PM Tuning and cut your own.

I have cut my own from the 0.25 Polini Carbon sheet fro PM. They have lasted longer and tend to start to "fray" when wearing rather than just snapping as the supplied reeds seem to do.
The carbon reeds seemed to have a bit more of an "on/off" feel about the ride which I put down to the carbon fibre being much stiffer. I have now gone back to the original reeds as I feel they provide a better ride but replace them yearly which has worked for me.

I think (but don’t quote me on this) that the standard reeds are 0.25 in thickness and coupled to the fact that there are no reed stops causes the top reed to hit the piston, in that fb post Darrell suggests he has had lots of problems with this and you could actually see were the piston was nipping at the top read! He went on to say he changed to a 0.38 or 0.40 thickness reed that he now sells that solved the problem.

How does 1 go about buying a set of these reed petals from Darrell Taylor. I cant find a web site for him. Any help would be nice

he`s on facebook. Taylor Tuning.

bamrattle wrote:How does 1 go about buying a set of these reed petals from Darrell Taylor. I cant find a web site for him. Any help would be nice

Try this...

http://www.lambretta-images.com/

I think Eden is his right hand man.

Unfortunately or should that be fortunately I dont do Facebook. And I have spare standard gt petals, but I was looking to get away from the doubling by getting the the darrell Taylor petals.

ToBoldlyGo wrote:

bamrattle wrote:How does 1 go about buying a set of these reed petals from Darrell Taylor. I cant find a web site for him. Any help would be nice

Try this...

http://www.lambretta-images.com/

I think Eden is his right hand man.

Wrong Taylor, Eden is involved with Richard Taylor (Mr GT) not Darrell.

bamrattle wrote:Unfortunately or should that be fortunately I dont do Facebook. And I have spare standard gt petals, but I was looking to get away from the doubling by getting the the darrell Taylor petals.

Do you do e mail dartay@btinternet.com

modster79 wrote:

ToBoldlyGo wrote:

bamrattle wrote:How does 1 go about buying a set of these reed petals from Darrell Taylor. I cant find a web site for him. Any help would be nice

Try this...

http://www.lambretta-images.com/

I think Eden is his right hand man.

Wrong Taylor, Eden is involved with Richard Taylor (Mr GT) not Darrell.

Too many Taylor's.

Covboy wrote:Rather than hijack the CST3 thread I think ill start a new one....

From the CST thread...
" I have double reeds. Just spoken to Richard (Taylor) now and he advises against thicker reeds. It’s not a massive problem but I’d let my spare reeds were at home. "

It was a massive problem for me 80 miles from home with no spares when mine went....

Im a bit confused now,....

GT186 / 200 / 240 + clubman = single reeds ???????????
GT186 / 200 /240 + expansion = double reeds or not ??????????? -

What was the reason for Richard advising against doubling up ?

What is the effect on engine performance / characteristics with double reeds?

...........And why do they seem to break frequently with a GT / expansion set up?
Is there another way to prevent this occurring?

He advised against thicker reeds not doubling up.


That was my post. If you keep the engine in the correct rev range the scooter will still be rideable. I was 50 miles from home when they broke. Biggest thing is you can’t start it unless you have a decent down hill to bump it off.

I’ve doubled the reeds now and done a 50 mile test ride. The 240 broke 2 sets last year with ADS3 pipe. It seems to be a bit more lethargic accelerating now but if I get more than 3000 miles out of a set of reeds I suppose I can live with it. Mine broke a reed that wasn’t the one Rich said the usually break.

I also have a GT 200 and never had an issue with the reeds in that but it only has a BGM pipe fitted.

I’m doubled up on a GT186 28phbh & a BGM box pipe. Avoid going onto reserve as that’s when my two failures have happened.

New discussion just started up over on fb Lambretta tuning page about the gt reed problem, Darrell has put some pictures up of the reed clearly entering the bore/hitting the piston.

I’m not on Fb

Could you put the pics/ info on here please. If possible
Thanks

Covboy wrote:I’m not on Fb

Could you put the pics/ info on here please. If possible
Thanks

Sorry dont do tech, you’ll have to ask an adult.

Covboy wrote:I’m not on Fb

Could you put the pics/ info on here please. If possible
Thanks

Steve I’ve had a look on face ache and cannot find anything.
Shane

They are there. Darrell Taylor posted the pictures this evening I think. You can plainly see the reeds coming into contact with the piston. I forget where I saw it now.

ToBoldlyGo wrote:They are there. Darrell Taylor posted the pictures this evening I think. You can plainly see the reeds coming into contact with the piston. I forget where I saw it now.

The thread seems to have disappeared, firstly Darrell’s pictures disappeared then the whole thread went. Richard started arguing saying there was nothing wrong with the reeds and that ignition timing was the cause.