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BGM Stators

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:23 pm
by nsaints
The new version 4.5 BGM stators with the silicon insulation I’ve never been a fan of. The insulation when cutting makes it difficult to get a clean cut with strands of insulation looking untidy, I’m left messing around trimming ends with scissors.

Yesterday I was speaking to an electronics engineer at work about these silicon insulated cables and he said, good for high heat conditions, very poor mechanical strength.

Having just removed one of these stators I was surprised the damage to the insulation under the cable clamp as the leads leave the stator. This is a low mileage engine, and I’m now concerned insulation failure and shorting on higher mileages. See damaged to the fat yellow cable picture below.

Anyone else found similar and have a solution?
I’m thinking a rewire

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Re: BGM Stators

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:47 pm
by gp200ts1
Always use scootronics stators now. Had 2 bgm stators melt all the lighting coils so avoid them like the plague now. Not the quality they used to be.

Re: BGM Stators

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:10 pm
by missing lynx
As above. I've never had any luck with BGM part specially their stator that seem less reliable than SIL ones

Re: BGM Stators

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:47 am
by Toddy
Only one issue for me failed LT never had any other issues with them when I’ve used them

Re: BGM Stators

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:37 am
by nsaints
I have submitted a question to scooter centre support on this
I tried philipp @ scooter centre directly but his email now bounces as unknown

Reading the BGM stator leaflet two points
1: The black outer extends behind the stator in one picture in the manual. The means the clamp is onto the outer not directly onto the silicon inners as I had it
2: From the leaflet 'Be careful not to squeeze the cables anywhere'. Guess what my cable clamp was doing..

This issue maybe down to me :(
My only defense is, it wasn't so critical with more robust PVC insulated cables

I'll update this if/when scooter center respond to my question
Off to check my other engine with the same stator..

Re: BGM Stators

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:10 pm
by Covboy
Hi Andy
Could you slide some heat shrink over the exposed cables to make them a bit more robust?

Re: BGM Stators

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:17 pm
by martyn dwane
the pick up screw on my mates came undone, less than 500 miles covered.ruined the stator and flyweel .
My AF original Ducati fitted in the mid 80`s still going strong.
Im fitting a BGM to my other Lambretta , i will be using locktite on the pick up screw for sure.

Re: BGM Stators

PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:53 am
by nsaints
Thanks for the suggestions guys. Appreciated

As an update I spoke with scooter centre where I’ve suggested improvements to their installation guide regarding the coloured outer making it clear that the outer is to be fitted so it’s immediately adjacent to the stator

I’ve refitted mine per the image. This time you can’t see any inners
I’ve also fitted a sturdier cable clamp as well, as the old one was flimsy and prone to bending

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For the stator with the damaged outer I have chopped out the damaged cable and replaced with new cable
This will be my spare stator I’ll take to the euro.

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