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Series 3 engine casing

Postby lammydave » Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:54 am

Building a series 3 Li150 engine yesterday..
had the choice of a couple of casings, the best one had a different part number to the others
also, although it had the innocenti stamping, the part number was different
I'll post pics later of the two different types
Does anyone know what the "proper" part number is?
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby rossclark » Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:20 am

Innocenti stamping is also cast into Indian casings, any other features?
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby lammydave » Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:18 pm

just gonna get some pix.. the engine number says Italian...
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby lammydave » Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:26 pm

One I have of three that are like this
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the one in question

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Stampings inside "standard"

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"Other" stampings

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as you can see, different part numbers and the lower stamping is different (supplier??)

Indian, Spanish? Italian?
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby landybretta » Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:17 pm

Not sure if this helps but if they were Italian then engine number 150LI 805359 would be from a 1959 series II and engine number 150LI 842960 would be from a 1960 series II.
However I cannot find either of the parts numbers listed in any of the Italian parts manuals for the crankcase.
But with Innocenti records anything is possible.
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby lammydave » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:55 pm

thanks, landybretta...
Just to add a bit more mystery.. the earlier one is like this underneath, with the extra mounting lug for the exhaust (although some muppet has drilled the front one and gone thru the crankcase!!

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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby pacemaker » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:27 pm

David the later 150 special that were registered in 1968 had 80xxx engine numbers and the extra mounting lug for the series 3 exhaust.
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby lammydave » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:54 pm

pacemaker wrote:David the later 150 special that were registered in 1968 had 80xxx engine numbers and the extra mounting lug for the series 3 exhaust.


aha!
that could be the mystery explained....
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby ToBoldlyGo » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:14 pm

Yes, but wouldn't it also be stamped LIS?
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby Rich Oswald » Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:18 pm

ToBoldlyGo wrote:Yes, but wouldn't it also be stamped LIS?


Should be!
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby landybretta » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:07 pm

As far as I am aware the LI 150 Special frame was stamped LIS but the engine was stamped LI 150 (no S)
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby pacemaker » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:12 pm

quite correct the frame had the S but the engine did not.
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Re: Series 3 engine casing

Postby rossclark » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:37 pm

Those look like Italian casings from different foundries.

Spanish usually don't have the Innocenti cast in as they seem to have had their own moulds.

This is SIL Indian and has it as they're cast from adapted Italian moulds.

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Don't know about other Indian sources as I've not handled any of those.
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