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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:55 am

Hi Adam,
Thanks i never got round to trying that yesterday, but I will try today and let you know how it goes,
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:30 pm

Hi Adam,
I tried as you said adjusting the plug, it is running much better now, but still tries to stall, but not as bad, so where to we go from here. Anybody know where I can get the flywheel remagnatized or a good second hand one, I can get a new stator, but I having problems getting a new flywheel. can anybody help.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby Adam_Winstone » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:17 pm

AF remagnetise flywheels, as do a number of other places so you might be able to find one within a decent travel distance. The benefit of this is that you can watch them test the magnet strength first with their Krypton Fluxmaster, which will instantly show you the strength of each magnet just by holding the tool against the flywheel. Not only will this show whether the magnetism is low or still good but it will also allow you to see how much it is improved after remagnetising the flywheel.

What grade plug are you using? You might find that it starts better still with a change of plug to something like a B7ES (again, closing the gap a little) if you're running an 8, 9 etc. The plug issue does suggest that the flywheel magnetism is probably a contributing factor (hence better by closing up the gap) and giving the ignition an easier task. As such, it is still worth resolving the root issues even if plug changes do allow you to use it.

Good luck with getting it all resolved.

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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:22 pm

Adam I sent you a PM.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:26 pm

Hi All,
Can any body recommend where I can get a 12 volt stator and flywheel for my GP, or someone to repair the stator and remagnatize the flywheel.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby rossclark » Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:26 am

AF will remagnetise your flywheel

No such thing as a 12v flywheel

12V electronic stators such as BGM are available, also SIL versions from SR and many others.

Electrex kits are supposed to be very reliable

If you're on points then there are 12v conversion stators from the likes of BeedSpeed or from other Indian part sources such as Sundar
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:39 am

Hi Mate,
Surly they are different from the points flywheels to the electronic flywheesl. I may just go down the electronic kit rout, anybody recommend one for not a lot of money.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby Adam_Winstone » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:02 pm

http://www.scooterrestorations.com/lamb ... enuine-sil

... I'd go down this route every time, rather than risk it on a cheaper Ebay item. Many of the Ebay kits mistakenly use a points flywheel boss in an electronic flywheel body, meaning that it is impossible to adjust the timing correctly without elongating or breaking through the adjustment slots on the base to get the required rotation. These genuine SIL kits also have slightly better LT coil and pickup, meaning that they are more reliable than some aftermarket others.

The Ducati CDI and regulators are also much more reliable than the Indian parts.

This kit has been based around substitutions that actually provide road-going scooterists with what they need; decent lights and reliable ignition. These are certainly much better than most of the cheaper ones available elsewhere.

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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:33 pm

Thanks Adam there is a problem with the link you sent me, can you please try again.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby Adam_Winstone » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:53 pm

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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:32 pm

Got it Adam,
Many thanks mate.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby rossclark » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:37 pm

kennystag wrote:Hi Mate,
Surly they are different from the points flywheels to the electronic flywheesl. I may just go down the electronic kit rout, anybody recommend one for not a lot of money.
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Sorry yes I realise that might sound confusing. What I should have said is that the flywheel doesn't determine the voltage, the coils in the stator and the rectifier / regulator are what make the difference. You can have 6 or 12 volt in either points or electronic.

As Adam has said mixing the centre boss from points and electronic flywheels is not good. Nor could you use a points flywheel with an electronic stator since the flywheel doesn't have the fingers in the magnets to trigger the pickup.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:35 am

Thanks for the info Ross.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:39 am

Hi Adam,
Does that kit link you sent me give the battery a full charge, or is it just a trickle charge .
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http://www.scooterrestorations.com/lamb ... regulator/
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:21 am

Adam it should be this link.
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http://www.scooterrestorations.com/lamb ... regulator/
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby Adam_Winstone » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:00 pm

Soz Stag, I didn't actually mean to send you a DC kit link. The thing that confused me is that the photo shows a 3-pin AC regulator.

Do you want a battery? Most people stick with AC for simplicity as the lights of the 12V AC are perfectly good enough for most and the battery only introduces something else to go wrong.

Decide whether you want the battery version or non-battery version. There are lots of threads about the pros and cons of each, with fans of both.

Let me know whether you want a battery or not (not, not, not ;) ) and I'll send you the correct link.

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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:46 pm

Hi Adam mate,
It all gets confusing, I think without a battery might best,then again I have lights when the engine is not running. Could you please send a link without the battery. I am not to happy with RS, they say free postage on orders over £100, but when I ask them is it free, they say mainland only, I thought Scotland was on the mainland, I look at their small print, it says it is not free to the highlands, and off shore islands, anyway rant over.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby kennystag » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:20 pm

The last email should be I am not happy with Scooter Restorations, not RS.
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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby Adam_Winstone » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:48 pm

Full weight:

http://www.scooterrestorations.com/lamb ... nuine-sil/



Lightened, which offers more tuning potential in the future and less chance of twisting the crank:

http://www.scooterrestorations.com/lamb ... nuine-sil/


There is a version with longer flywheel fins but they offer little or no advantage and will not fit with standard flywheel cowling so I not added that link.

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Re: enige cuts out with the lights on

Postby coaster » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:46 pm

kennystag wrote:....... I am not to happy with RS, they say free postage on orders over £100, but when I ask them is it free, they say mainland only, I thought Scotland was on the mainland, I look at their small print, it says it is not free to the highlands, and off shore islands, anyway rant over.
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I wouldn't get too hung up about that tbh, they are generally one of the better suppliers and do have an exemplary record for fast reliable service (no connection whatsoever btw)
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