Parts not fitting properly

[Kristof Lammy pie]

No, I think you've misunderstood me. If nobody gives feedback and assumes that everything you buy needs adjusting, nothing is ever going to change. Suppliers aren't going to be aware they need to step up and improve.

You may have the skills to adjust things easily. I haven't and I need to know that what I buy works.

Just my observation it's not my intention to upset you.

[Shaun]

I did speak to Scootopia about the pads. And they responded by saying I was the first person that they heard of that had a problem!

Knowing that was highly unlikely I couldn't really be bothered to respond.

How many layers of paint on your hub?
That would make a difference, I have fitted a few sets of these with no problems.

[Kristof Lammy pie]

No paint bare metal.

[Dimitrios_231]

Welcome to the world of Lambretta...........Merry Christmas !

Kristof,don't worry, your disc brake is fine,you'll just need to grind the outside diameter till the pads drop easily in their position.
I have also bought these pads,they didn't fit straight,I can't remember a disc pad set that fitted straight without grinding,the majority of them were Newfren sintered.
I didn't inform the seller that the pads didn't fit,
for me,whatever needs some grinding to fit,is OK,
the problem is when I need to add material.

Scootopia is an excellent company,really helpful people,brilliant service,this is what counts for me,
if I had informed them,they would had helped me,I'm 100% sure about this,
they have helped me many times in the past,
the real problem comes when the seller doesn't respond after the sale.

The only tool that I'm missing is a...
lathe,
dear mister Santa I hope that you read my posts

[Warkton Tornado No.1]

Gentlemen (& any Ladies)

I hope you don't mind me adding my two pennyworths...

As an owner of Lambrettas continuously since 1973, I can vouch that the original pads (supplied from those few places that continued to hold stock) would fit without modification.

It is my observation that only when so many 'entrepreneurs' jumped on to the bandwagon did quality of fit change. To an extent, this was tolerated principally because the main users of pads were unquestionably the racing fraternity, they being the torch bearers in many respects to keep the Lambretta name alive. As racing progressed, pad composition was experimented with & the initial trials involved cutting down pads from other machines to suit. That's why so many early sintered pads had holes central to enable turning on a lathe, whilst the poorer racers of the day would linish the pads to shape.

However, by now, there's little excuse for the pads not being a drop in fit , @ least as far as original specification Innocenti back plates are concerned.

I don't doubt that there are suppliers that strive to supply goods to the best quality possible & Scootopia springs to mind.

Perhaps it's time that quality & price be indexed somehow within this forum on all manner of things, but brake pads is a great example of an item that is not going to be affected by the interaction of other components like, say, a cylinder kit, which has to function as the result of the rider's choice of carburetion, ignition, piston, crank/con-rod & exhaust before it can even run.

Dare I suggest front dampers as another example? Controversial though! 'Bling' carries a lot of Kudos, but the quickest scooter (forget pointing out lap times) @ the last Cadwell piloted by Ryan Saxelby had standard dampers. It also had fixed Motoplat ignition & he took off the anti-dive during the weekend....

[ToBoldlyGo]

But, wasn't it also the case that the dealer network and the market for original parts collapsed and basically you had to make do?

[Dimitrios_231]

Thank you for the input.
The Scootopia sintered pads that I fitted was their very first version,
they might have improved the fitting by now,Kristof might also have the first version,
they were 1/3 the price of Newfren,I had to gring the outside diameter for 5 minutes maximum,dremel tool,easy task.
All the Newfren pads that I have fitted,had to be modified too,
both pads work very well.

I have a NOS set,it fits straight as you said

[Warkton Tornado No.1]

But, wasn't it also the case that the dealer network and the market for original parts collapsed and basically you had to make do?

I don't think it collapsed so much as diminished. The Luna line probably suffered more than any other, but I can't recall dire shortages to the point of being stuck. I remember struggling to acquire a 16 tooth sprocket, more than anything else. After all, even the Serveta Jet was initially equipped with a disc brake, for example, to get not too far off subject.

[rossclark]

I'll restate, since the late 80s I've NEVER had a set of front brake pads - Newfren sintered or any other brand - that did not need grinding to fit and move as I like them. I might have been able to press some of them in without modification but I prefer the pads to move freely without pressure. That might be as little as 0.1 mm difference in diameter but the pads must move freely and the fettling is worth the effort to get a brake that works as I like it to.

[dave81]

I have been reading the comments on parts not fitting correctly etc especially brake pads. I seemed to remember in stickies manual a comment about this and looked it up.He says that the paint makes the pads slightly larger in diameter so they must be cleaned up. If he says this then the problem must have been around for sometime.
Whilst on the subject of bad fitting/quality parts I bought an engine oil seal kit at Wicksteed Park from a well known supplier. The quality of the rubber used for the seals appeared very hard compared to that I have been used to in my employment. I sent to another well known supplier and the seals were exactly the same quality and type.I am not saying they will not due the job but the quality of the parts made and the material used both contribute to a quality product no matter where it is made.

[Shaun]

No paint bare metal.

Odd, but I haven't had a problem.
Still as said, report back to them, even if you don't get a satisfactory outcome, it may lead them to take a closer look at the pads.

I fit car pads everyday at work, and at least 50% need the ears grinding to fit in the yoke without sticking, not saying its correct, but even with Mintex, thay are all the same :-/

[Tractorman]

I can recall 'cleaning' genuine Lambretta pads back in the 60's so they were a loose fit. The only way to make manufacturers make parts that fit is to either stop buying them or keep taking them back to the dealer until they are so p***ed off they do something. Scootopia are leading the way by getting parts made to their spec.