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series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:41 pm
by pg42
More problems with this "rebuilt" project engine. Started it up after loads of work on clutch and gearbox it smelt of burning oil and was smokey which you would expect from an engine that has sat since gawd knows when. It ran for a short time then stalled. i noticed spots of oil on the ground under the exhaust/silencer joint. The engine tried to restart but wouldn't fire up. Pulled off the silencer and a qty of oil ran out of the exhaust manifold. This suggests crankshaft seals (?). There is no dish on the gearbox side casing for an oil thrower so i guess the series 2 didnt have one (?). Any pointers please?
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:52 pm
by Knowledge
Whilst series one engines did not have dished oil throwers, there is some evidence that a few series two engines were sans oil throwers.
You are probably right about the oil seals. Any engine that has stood for that long must risk seal failure.
A couple of questions. When it was running, was the smoke very white? What is the plug like?
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:28 pm
by Dimitrios_231
Can I fit a dished washer on a series one engine?
the surface there is flat.
Sorry for the off topic
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:00 pm
by pg42
The engine casing i have looks identical to this photo. I was told it was a series 2.???
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:39 pm
by Dimitrios_231
It could be an early S2,mine is S1,
unfortunately,when I was stripping,
I didn't think to test if I could fit an oil thrower washer
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:47 am
by pg42
What is a sans oil thrower please
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:06 am
by bike grim
Sans means “without”
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:41 am
by pg42
cheers.
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:38 pm
by Fast n Furious
In my experience, the oil thrower makes very little if any any difference at all.
Just make sure the gearbox filler breather is ok.
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:26 pm
by pg42
Thanks for all replies. I have just dug the crankshaft out and found the gearbox seal carrier screws loose. That would do it then! Think a monkey must have rebuilt this. New seal and gaskets then hopefully, problem sorted.
Re: series 2 150cc oil in exhaust

Posted:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:45 pm
by Knowledge
We like a happy ending.