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rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:31 pm
by stephena
Looking to buy a rear shocker for a gp getting confused some advertised at 300mm and other 320mm what is the correct length please.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:54 pm
by missing lynx
300

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:29 pm
by Raveydavey
The longer one is for S1/ S2

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:21 pm
by Stesjh
May seem a stupid question but im guessing you cannot fit a S3 on to a S1/2?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:50 pm
by Knowledge
I am pretty sure you can.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:01 am
by Warkton Tornado No.1
Stesjh wrote:May seem a stupid question but im guessing you cannot fit a S3 on to a S1/2?


Some tw@t I know has a S3 type on his S2 which makes it look like a dog tobogganing to get rid of it's clinkers.The handling is appalling, but as long as he had a 'bling' £156 rear shocker, that hardly matters.

Fit an S1 or S2 rear shock absorber to a S1 or S2 (or S3 to gain ground clearance & sharpen up the steering)

I doubt ANY full bodywork Lambretta S3 race machine has used shorter than S2 since the 1960's

Re: rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:31 am
by al pushpak
I have series the 3 - 300mm rear shocks fitted to both my series 1's & they both handle fine , yes they sit lower but I prefer the ride height set this way ;)also both have ts1 motor's in with no frame/manifold clearance issues. I would suggest maybe your mate has the settings wrong on his "bling" shocker ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:08 am
by Scooter Paul
Fitting a series 3 shock to a series 1 or 2 makes getting the rear wheel off difficult. The longer, original length, shock allows the tyre to clear the fixed panel bracket.

Re: rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:38 am
by al pushpak
"Fitting a series 3 shock to a series 1 or 2 makes getting the rear wheel off difficult. The longer, original length, shock allows the tyre to clear the fixed panel bracket" - I've trimmed the panel bracket's on my series 1's so rear wheel removal is no longer a problem ;)

Re: rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:48 pm
by Warkton Tornado No.1
al pushpak wrote:I have series the 3 - 300mm rear shocks fitted to both my series 1's & they both handle fine , yes they sit lower but I prefer the ride height set this way ;)also both have ts1 motor's in with no frame/manifold clearance issues. I would suggest maybe your mate has the settings wrong on his "bling" shocker ;)


The geometry, suspension & tyres on a Lambretta can be optimised & enhanced to achieve differences, whether that means cruising comfortably or enabling high corner speeds to the extent that a standard exhaust will be the limiting factor. Kerist, even in the 70's we had to take a hacksaw to the exhaust box to avoid grounding, & that was with tyres with the grip of the current Prime Minister!

I understand that there are those content to compromise. This Forum is a place to express opinions, some of them even factual, but some are not.

However, if some tw@t were to recommend the sporting handling of a rear shock absorber that is not the correct length, & too short by some margin, then I believe that is nonsense & needs addressing from a safety aspect.

Re: rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:53 pm
by al pushpak
Whenever I reply to a post on this forum it's never my intention to force my opinion on anyone about anything, but just simply to inform people of my own personal experiences of trial & error! :? as I stated in my post I have found this set up to be satisfactory for my own personal riding preference & by no means should anyone rush out & start fitting different length shockers to their scooters without researching it first ! I have been riding Lambrettas for the last 35 years so I think I qualify as someone who knows when something feels right or totally wrong! & at the end of the day they are my scooters to do with as I like :) ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:14 am
by Warkton Tornado No.1
al pushpak wrote:Whenever I reply to a post on this forum it's never my intention to force my opinion on anyone about anything, but just simply to inform people of my own personal experiences of trial & error! :? as I stated in my post I have found this set up to be satisfactory for my own personal riding preference & by no means should anyone rush out & start fitting different length shockers to their scooters without researching it first ! I have been riding Lambrettas for the last 35 years so I think I qualify as someone who knows when something feels right or totally wrong! & at the end of the day they are my scooters to do with as I like :) ;)


I had not imagined that your intentions were anything but good & appropriate :D

However, like you, I would imagine, I am aware that there are those that do not consider all of the options & consequences of what they read, or say, on this Forum & my comment was only an attempt to convey that whenever the safety of a machine may be affected, then any change to the generic set up should be considered very carefully :!:

Re: rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:14 pm
by ULC Soulagent
Buy the latest Bgm rear shocker as it covers all bases 300-310 on overall length and has adjustable rebound and preload for a decent price ;) job done

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:42 pm
by ToBoldlyGo
ULC Soulagent wrote:Buy the latest Bgm rear shocker as it covers all bases 300-310 on overall length and has adjustable rebound and preload for a decent price ;) job done


Must admit I'm not sure about these adjustable shocks. If you take them out to 310 you can't have a lot left on a thin stem.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:06 pm
by ULC Soulagent
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
ULC Soulagent wrote:Buy the latest Bgm rear shocker as it covers all bases 300-310 on overall length and has adjustable rebound and preload for a decent price ;) job done


Must admit I'm not sure about these adjustable shocks. If you take them out to 310 you can't have a lot left on a thin stem.

Well I’m sure they have tested that too destruction before being released too us mere mortals ;)

Re: rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:23 pm
by Ranburetta
ULC Soulagent wrote:
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
ULC Soulagent wrote:Buy the latest Bgm rear shocker as it covers all bases 300-310 on overall length and has adjustable rebound and preload for a decent price ;) job done


Must admit I'm not sure about these adjustable shocks. If you take them out to 310 you can't have a lot left on a thin stem.

Well I’m sure they have tested that too destruction before being released too us mere mortals ;)


Extract from BGM catalogue:

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Re: rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:43 pm
by ULC Soulagent
Yes I’ve seen those and might get some as I’m currently restoring a 78 Jet200 :mrgreen:

Re: rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:52 pm
by shane BBoys
I have. Jet and bought the spacer for mine https://s58.photobucket.com/user/Botohp ... t.png.html

But it will not slide on is there something I’m not doing? Currently I have the shocker packed out with locking rings which I know is not great but for the last 4 years has served me well.
Cheers Shane.

Re: rear shock absorber

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:56 pm
by Ranburetta
ULC Soulagent wrote:Yes I’ve seen those and might get some as I’m currently restoring a 78 Jet200 :mrgreen:


I was more intersted in the statement "with no defective rear shockers since the introduction of the adjustable black rear shock in 2010 (!!!)"