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dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:11 am
by mickey c
Hi all
my winter project is to restore a Li III school master i have in bits.

its taken me a while to get round to this as (being thick) i cant posssibly imagine how the dual controls work. The Series II on the cover of latest jetset has inspired me but I wonder if anyone on here (preferably in the North West) has one that i could come and look at please to try to work it all out?

any other advice or suggestions of where to find literature etc. would be greatly received.

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:51 am
by Captain Pugwash
No I can't say I know of any one in the north west with one, only one I've seen was owned by a lad in Devon who I bought my GP from in 98.
It was for sale but at the time I wasn't looking for an LI even if it had dual controls. Might think twice about that now.

Good luck with it.

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:15 am
by CHRIS in MARGATE
There is one in the North Walsham M/C museum in Norfolk. I went and looked last year. I took lots of photos of the bikes and the LCGB scoots in there including that one but there's not a lot of detail.
Brilliant museum though.

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:04 pm
by Rich Oswald
There was one at the Blackpool Rally a couple of years ago so maybe there is one in the North West?

Rich'

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:03 pm
by dscscotty
Think Mick Lloyd who used to be a very active LCGB member had one, sure there was an article in Jet set in the 90's or early 00's that had some good tech info etc regarding them.

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:38 pm
by weeks
dscscotty wrote:Think Mick Lloyd who used to be a very active LCGB member had one, sure there was an article in Jet set in the 90's or early 00's that had some good tech info etc regarding them.


Jet set no 75 mate ........... The one above in the Norfolk museum is the LCGB model Mick once owned I believe.

Maybe worth contacting Martin Robinson who looks like being the proud owner of the one on this months cover of Jet set issue no 191

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:14 pm
by mickey c
thanks for all the replies fellas
and weeks your recollection of back issues of jetset is amazing! - i'll try to dig through old ones for no.75.
i was going to ask Martin Robinson for a cheeky peek at his too, does anyoen know if he comes on here at all?
getting to norfolk might not be realistic for a while much as i would love to visit the museum.

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:24 pm
by weeks
:D ............... Yeah Martin is a frequent forum user and his USERNAME is : martin1310

Give him a IM im sure he will try to help you in anyway he can................. Good luck with the project and maybe do a feature or two on the build for future Jet sets ;)

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:48 pm
by Knowledge
I'd love to know how the cable works at the bottom end. I've never seen a photo of anything other than the handlebars.....

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:12 pm
by mickey c
Like I say I can't imagine how 2 separate cables can operate 1 function! But I don't have a great imagination! :D
Should be a fun challenge!

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:31 pm
by Jeff t
Hi pretty certain a lad from Wigan has a S2, try Facebook Wigan Scooter club and ask on there.

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:35 am
by Dimitrios_231
The instructor didn't have any throttle control.
He (or she) could use the rear brake,clutch and a kill button.
This info can be found in Pete Davies brilliant book.

Some pics that I found.

Double clutch mod

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Double rear brake mod

Image

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Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:35 am
by Rich Oswald
Cheers Dimitrios for those pics. The paintwork on that one looks very similar to the one on the front cover of Jet Set,

Rich'

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:58 am
by mickey c
Dimitrios - you are a star! when i am rumaging through the box of bits I know now what i am looking for, pretty clever and hopefully straightforward (ish).
Yuo've also given me a greta excuse to buy the lambretta Bible (or put on early Xmas list) as i have been after this for a while.
i know need ot have a proper look at it and start the internal debate of rustoration versus restoration, i'm pretty sure its goign to be the latter as think it needs lots and lots of work.
i'll stick some photos up of its current state.
any other tips for info still greatly recieved.
thanks everyone
Mike

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:41 pm
by Dimitrios_231
To be honest I haven't received the latest Jetset yet.
The pictures found here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/13113540@ ... 466680883/

In Pete's Bible there are two nice big photos of a Li 125 S3 model and another two from series 2.
One of them features this Lambretta from a different angle.
Image

I was trying to figure out the chukka boots that the instructor was wearing and wasn't paying much attention on the Lambretta :oops:

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:22 pm
by mickey c
I prefer the young Mrs Merton's loafer white sock combo!
On the forthcoming project, the scooter has a "schoolmaster" badge in lambretta badge styling on the legshield: replacing won't be possible but I'm such a clutz I'll snap it.
Who is good at getting legshield badges off in 1 piece?

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:46 pm
by IaninDorset
I'm curious what the electrical connector is on what looks to be the outermost gear cable in the pics, neutral light?

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:12 am
by rossclark
Looks just like a bit of terminal block, probably just to stop the cable fraying.

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:43 am
by IaninDorset
Aye I see that now, quite a good idea and you got a spare connector on hand too :D

Re: dual control / school master

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:51 am
by martin1310
weeks wrote::D ............... Yeah Martin is a frequent forum user and his USERNAME is : martin1310

Give him a IM im sure he will try to help you in anyway he can................. Good luck with the project and maybe do a feature or two on the build for future Jet sets ;)


Hi all the scooter will be at bridlington show. thanks martin ;)