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Sliding Dog

Posted:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:01 pm
by Littlewheels
Can anyone tell me if its possible to replace the this part without removing the layshaft?
If I do have to remove the layshaft can I save the rear wheel bearing?
Thanks

Re: Sliding Dog

Posted:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:42 am
by Scooterslag
It would be a bit of a pig getting the new sliding dog over the spring and ball bearings, a lot easier with the layshaft out of the engine. Paul

Re: Sliding Dog

Posted:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:24 am
by martyn dwane
Done it many times with the layshaft in-situ.
Re: Sliding Dog

Posted:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 2:01 pm
by Adam_Winstone
martyn dwane wrote:Done it many times with the layshaft in-situ.
Me too... but it's a pig of a job AND you need one of the sliding dogs that has big chamfers on the legs that correspond with the balls. Some makes of sliding dog have 2 legs chamfered, some have all legs chamfered, others have virtually no chamfer and would require you to file/grind your own.
Good luck.
Re: Sliding Dog

Posted:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:18 pm
by Littlewheels
Thanks for the help.
Be using original part so not sure if that has chamfered legs?
Re: Sliding Dog

Posted:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:52 pm
by Storkfoot
I have never even thought about trying as it only takes quarter of an hour to take the hub off and tap the Layshaft out. Lambretta life is hard enough without ball bearings flying all over

Re: Sliding Dog

Posted:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:30 am
by hullygully
Littlewheels wrote:Thanks for the help.
Be using original part so not sure if that has chamfered legs?
turn the selector upside down (ie looking from the rear where the pawls sit), if it has 2 x large chamfered internals they'll be larger than the rest
& slide on over the 2 x ballies bus

Re: Sliding Dog

Posted:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:38 pm
by Adam_Winstone
^... exactly what I was on about.
Re: Sliding Dog

Posted:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:45 pm
by dickie
Surely, you can only do that with the shaft out?
I can't get my head around this.
Re: Sliding Dog

Posted:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:34 pm
by Adam_Winstone
No, you can do it in place but you need to compress the spring and balls enough for the chamfer to hold the balls in place so that the chamfer then compresses the spring fully when you push it home, with the pawls on the wishbone already aligned to channel.
It's a really tricky process but I've done it a number of times. I've also buggered 1 spring trying!!!
Certainly easier to take the hub off and layshaft out but it depends on circumstance.