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rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:00 pm
by prog54
I was reading a topic in Jetset about the SIP speedo and rev counter and was surprised to see that at 50mph the revs measured 2100.
With a 185 engine, standard series 2 exhaust and 25ml carb my rev counter at 50mph reads about 5000 and at idle about 1000 revs, are my readings completely wrong. :?

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:12 pm
by CHRIS in MARGATE
Nope. I read it as well. Got his numbers very wrong.

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:14 pm
by Norm
The whole thing reads just like an advert for SIP, I hope they paid handsomely for it. I've chucked the mag away now, but I've a feeling that the publishers didn't even bother editing SIP's mistakes out of the copy they clearly submitted themselves. Doesn't it mention something about the speedo being for Vespas somewhere in the "article"?

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:07 pm
by rossclark
There's another article in the latest Jetset which has somebody else's bad experience with it...

I think that's the one being discussed in this thread

I think at 2100 rpm for 50mph, he'd have to have about 2.2 final gearing

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:31 am
by carlos fandango
rossclark wrote:There's another article in the latest Jetset which has somebody else's bad experience with it...

I think that's the one being discussed in this thread

I think at 2100 rpm for 50mph, he'd have to have about 2.2 final gearing


He will have around 2.2 final drive , as hes measured the circumference of his wheel as 3160mm ????? that equates to a wheel diameter of around 1000mm :shock: :lol:

It should work out at around 10mph per 1000rpm, depending on final drive and tyre size :)

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:32 am
by Knowledge
Norm wrote:I've chucked the mag away now, but ..........


Thanks for your candid comment. :roll:

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:25 am
by Norm
@ Knowledge - you're welcome :)

@ Ross - ah, that makes sense, I haven't received the latest issue yet.

BTW, I'm not bashing the SIP speedo, in fact I've got one which I'm waiting to fit. Just couldn't help but notice the "advertorial" nature of the original speedo article in the mag. But I apologise, that's going away from the original topic, which just sounds like a genuine typo.

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:20 pm
by Timexit17
quite clear to me he doesn't have a resistor type plug fitted either (or didn't initially) and I'm guessing that was his main issue.

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:00 pm
by peejay
Norm wrote:Just couldn't help but notice the "advertorial" nature of the original speedo article in the mag.


which article is this then, just to be clear.

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:43 pm
by Knowledge
Norm wrote:@ Knowledge - you're welcome :)


Norm,

Please feel free to contribute to Jetset.

We contributors and the editor always welcome articles from new blood. I promise I won't be quite as dismissive as you appear to be of our efforts to create the club's bi-monthly magazine. :(

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:46 pm
by Norm
Wow, someone's got the wrong end of the stick I think!

The mag's great, just that one article read like an advertorial, which I'm certain it was. If it was written by an LCGB member, I don't think it would mention Vespa. I think it was lifted straight from SIP's blurb, and SIP/LCGB forgot to change one of the references to Vespa (for which the speedo was originally made, and the article written presumably).

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:55 pm
by prog54
Hi guys
Thanks for the replys, apart from the criticism and grumbles am I to assume that my rev counter which does measure approx. 1000 revs per 10mph is correct.?
cheers
Terry

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:16 pm
by CHRIS in MARGATE
+ or - a little bit depending on gearing.
Use the excellent gearing calculator available on the net.
10.2mph/1000 revs at 4.9:1 with my 400x10 tyre on my scoot and about 9.8 with 350 x 10 at about 5.2:1

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:16 am
by scootergirli
Hi Norm

The 'advertorial' you mention from issue 191 is exactly that, and I had hoped that with the opening lines of:

" The guys at SIP have kindly sent us for your perusal some information about the SIP speedo range, so hopefully a few questions, that some may have, will be answered here."

people would be able to work it out that this was written by the SIP team and the other giveaway would be that the name at the end end of it was:

Ralf Jodl - (aka, (one of the) founders and managing director of the SIP Scootershop GmbH)

Hope this clears up any confusion for anyone, I'd also like to say thanks to Ron Wood, for his experience of the SIP speedo (Issue 192) in response to SIP's info, as it's always good to see opposing opinions.
And apologies for the error with the dirty VESPA word, oops I did it again! 8-)
in the words of my Latin tutor, Mr Hobbs “Errare humanum est.” I think Alexander Pope may have expanded on it!

Thanks to all who contribute it is very much appreciated and hope that more members' continue to do so.
Regards
Linda
:D

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:01 am
by Norm
Thanks for the clarification Linda - I hope the speedo's as good as they say it is :)

Keep up the good work!

Re: rev counter in Jetset topic

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:52 pm
by Digger
To err is human; to forgive, divine.

Alexander Pope

8-)