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Has anyone had problems with DVLA when registering an LI.I keep getting my application for registration rejected.I have enclosed all the relevant paperwork,
v55/5 form
nova registration
insurance cover note
dating certificate
mot
photos of scooter including frame and engine numbers
cheque for £55
proof of identity
proof of address
When I receive the rejection its always with a letter stating that the NOVA is wrong.On the NOVA form the vin number is correct 125LI ,but on the letter from the DVLA it has the vin number as 125L1.The I on the NOVA form is underlined and the 1 on the DVLA form is underlined.It seems that the DVLA take what their computer says as being right.Do the DVLA and VOSA use the same computer system because the mot certificate has the vin number as 125L1.The mot man says that he has done a lot of Lambrettas and when he tries to put LI in the vin number box it always comes up as L1,he has had no problems up to now with people registering with this writen on their certificate.The problem I have is that my insurance cover note is only valid fot 30 days and if this isn't resolved soon it will expire.I hope someone can shine some light on this situation because I'm reaching the end of my rope with it.

Paul.

Basically the record of your mot at the dvla shows L1 and that's the only record they have you are correctly submitting a form with LI so the numbers don't match and you won't get a reg. go back to your MOT station and tell him you don't care how many he has done in the past it's not working for you and you wan't it correcting. I am no expert but i am sure its illegal to knowingly issue a mot with a incorrect number

I've been back to the mot station and the mot man is perfectly correct in that the VOSA system wont accept LI in the vin box,it keeps coming back as L1.On the v55/5 form that I submitted to DVLA,the person who was doing all the checks had affixed a sticker with all the documents needed for registering written on it,all were ticked exept NOVA,which had a cross against it.

I agree with grumpar it seems to be the MOT man who doesn't seem to know how to input the correct machine , why not go to another MOT station and ask them to see if they could input it correctly , either way you'd know then ?

My MOT shows LI 125 so would appear MOT testers machine isn't set up correctly and not the system. Could be wrong though

drivera wrote:I agree with grumpar it seems to be the MOT man who doesn't seem to know how to input the correct machine , why not go to another MOT station and ask them to see if they could input it correctly , either way you'd know then ?

The mot man is putting the correct number in the correct box on the certificate,I've watched him doing it.Its the computer system thats at fault.The number is put in correctly as 125LI * 754+++ and it always comes back as 125L1 * 754+++ I've left the last three numbers off.

monument7 wrote:My MOT shows LI 125 so would appear MOT testers machine isn't set up correctly and not the system. Could be wrong though

I have an LI 150 that is already registered and on the mot certificate under vehicle identification number (vin ) the LI150 is left off and just the six numbers are inserted,but on a vehicle that isn't registered the full number ie.model and number has to be written in the vin box.

Hi mate, I have had two similar problems when registering 2 scooters. On both occasions the issue was resolved by a phone call to DVLA and speaking to the Supervisor of New Vehicle Registration.Having identified the issue , she told me to send all the documents for her attention . In my case DVLA re-issued a new MOT with the correct vin format.
Suggest you give them a ring, I found them very helpful.
jono

Thanks very much Jono,I'll do just that tomorrow morning.

After reading this post I decided to check my latest MOT issued yesterday and my V5 issued in 2011.
The VIN/Serial no. is wrong on both. Shows L1 instead of LI.
Just sent an email to The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (replaced VOSA), asking for advice on how to get both documents corrected.
Will update if I get a reply.

The dvla don't except ' i ' on any docs ,their computer system won't let it be used... Ever! , so it's always written as 1..... Always. Nor will it except a star shape
I had this last year trying to reg an li125, my frame number was li125*123456 ( for instance) on the nova,
but dvla computer writes it as l1125123456 ( obviously not right!!)
So I had to send it all off with a very long and written in very plain baby language explaination of where it's going tits up, with a number to 'phone me if you need more info', it went thru ok... With the frame number l1125133456! -they said be ok legally and that is the only way they can do it!

Nobby wrote:The dvla don't except ' i ' on any docs ,their computer system won't let it be used... Ever! , so it's always written as 1..... Always. Nor will it except a star shape
I had this last year trying to reg an li125, my frame number was li125*123456 ( for instance) on the nova,
but dvla computer writes it as l1125123456 ( obviously not right!!)
So I had to send it all off with a very long and written in very plain baby language explaination of where it's going tits up, with a number to 'phone me if you need more info', it went thru ok... With the frame number l1125133456! -they said be ok legally and that is the only way they can do it!

Interesting but I can't agree about the star shape. Both my MOT certificate and V5 have the star shape as it should be for the VIN (frame) & engine number.
Don't see why the system can't be changed to accommodate the letter "I" instead of the number "1" It's not rocket science..........or maybe it is

landybretta wrote:After reading this post I decided to check my latest MOT issued yesterday and my V5 issued in 2011.
The VIN/Serial no. is wrong on both. Shows L1 instead of LI.
Just sent an email to The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (replaced VOSA), asking for advice on how to get both documents corrected.
Will update if I get a reply.

On the mot certificate there's a place for the model number on the left hand side,that always comes back correct.It seems its just the box for the vin number were it wont allow the letter " I ".I have an LI150 that was registered in 1988 and on both the mot certificate and the log book,in the box for the vin number it has the six numbers only,but leaves off the model number ie LI150.

HxPaul wrote:

landybretta wrote:After reading this post I decided to check my latest MOT issued yesterday and my V5 issued in 2011.
The VIN/Serial no. is wrong on both. Shows L1 instead of LI.
Just sent an email to The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (replaced VOSA), asking for advice on how to get both documents corrected.
Will update if I get a reply.

On the mot certificate there's a place for the model number on the left hand side,that always comes back correct.It seems its just the box for the vin number were it wont allow the letter " I ".I have an LI150 that was registered in 1988 and on both the mot certificate and the log book,in the box for the vin number it has the six numbers only,but leaves off the model number ie LI150.

Even more anomalies now. My documents show:_
V5, section 4, D.3 Model ...........Blank
V5, section 4, E VIN/Chassis/Frame No.....................150L1S*123456*
V5, section 4, P.5 Engine number................150L1*123456*
MOT certificate, Model...................LI 150 Special
MOT certificate VIN.........................150L1S*123456*

Shambles spring to mind

Sorry let me retract that! - my memory's shite , it was the nova hmrc computer that wouldn't let me use a star making it l1125123456 and the dvla computer that won't except an ' i ' but will except a star !! So that where the confusion was
Sorry !

When I phoned the dvla the women told me they never use 'i ' on there computer system because it can be confused with a 1 so it's all makes down as 1s

Nobby wrote:When I phoned the dvla the women told me they never use 'i ' on there computer system because it can be confused with a 1 so it's all makes down as 1s

It seems to me that that rule confuses matters even more.

DVLA system does in fact cater for the letter 'i', it has to, certain reg numbers (i have one) also some VIN numbers. The mot guy is inputting the wrong figure..

xenia1 wrote:DVLA system does in fact cater for the letter 'i', it has to, certain reg numbers (i have one) also some VIN numbers. The mot guy is inputting the wrong figure..

Check your own mot certificate (if it is an LI) - In the space on the left of the certificate marked model number it will read,correctly LI150 or LI125.In the space on the right of the certificate marked Vehicle Identification Number,it will read 150L1 or 125L1,unless they have left off this part of the VIN number.In that case it will just have the six numbers.

xenia1 wrote:DVLA system does in fact cater for the letter 'i', it has to, certain reg numbers (i have one) also some VIN numbers. The mot guy is inputting the wrong figure..

It's nothing to do with the mot guy it's a dvla- its system doesn't except 'i' on frame/vin numbers, it has to be input as a '1'
I registered 2 li 's last year ...