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Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:41 pm
by Knowledge
I need to replace both my Schwable Raceman tyres after one blistered on the way back from the C2C.

I need a similar tyre (good in both wet and dry) but preferably ones that are not uni-directional. What options are there?

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:12 pm
by rossclark
Most race type tyres are unidirectional.

Even block type stuff like the SM100 (which I quite like on the pig) has a rotation arrow on it though I'm damned if I can see why.

Why do you need them to be omnidirectional?

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:40 pm
by Knowledge
Ross,

My rear wheel fits in the usual way, but my home-brew disc brake needs the tyre fitted from the RHS. I use SIP tubeless rims, and I have to be so specifics about ensuring the tyres go on the correct way round (for my application). It also means that I can't swap the tyres from front to back. Finally, when my Schwable went on the way back from the C2C, I couldn't flag down another scooter and beg a spare, because it would most likely have been the wrong rotation for my front. If I had omni directional tyres, I could have taken the back tyre on the front, and the borrowed wheel on the rear.

Sorry for the long explanation, but you did ask.

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:45 pm
by claretandblue
Dunlop 'scootsmart'. Bought one for spare wheel because of the directional issue so I can use it for front or back wheel in the event. Supposed to be good tyres I'm told.

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:23 pm
by Captain Pugwash
claretandblue wrote:Dunlop 'scootsmart'. Bought one for spare wheel because of the directional issue so I can use it for front or back wheel in the event. Supposed to be good tyres I'm told.


Thinking of trying the scootsmarts myself to see what there like and if they fit front and back without having to be rotated then that's a bonus 8-)

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:22 pm
by coaster
claretandblue wrote:Dunlop 'scootsmart'. Bought one for spare wheel because of the directional issue so I can use it for front or back wheel in the event. Supposed to be good tyres I'm told.


Very pleased with mine, just bought another pair off a guy on the GTS facebook page. P rated £56 for the pair delivered 8-) If anyone else is interested I'll ask if he has any left.

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:54 pm
by rossclark
Knowledge wrote:
Sorry for the long explanation, but you did ask.


Sorry if it sounded a little direct, I was just curious ;)

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:04 pm
by Knowledge
No worries Ross. I was only concerned that some people might lose the will to live whilst reading my response.

I've opted for the Dunlop Scootsmart tyres. It was proving very difficult to find out whether they're were omni directional or uni directional, so I gave up and ordered some. I'll find out which way they roll when they arrive later in the week.

More later.....

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:40 pm
by davla
What about Michelin S83s.....correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall any direction arrows on them.

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:19 pm
by Scooter Paul
Some tyres are uni directional. Some tyres fit one way if used on the front and the other if used on the rear. Markings on the side wall will tell. Don't fit other than directed as it's an MOT failure. Even if the 'block' looks even it doesn't mean the inner carcass is wound or layered the same.

Paul

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:39 pm
by Knowledge
davla wrote:What about Michelin S83s.....correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall any direction arrows on them.


Yes, but it is an S83. It is a very old design, and now looks like a wet weather tyre.

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:38 pm
by Timexit17
continental K62 also omni directional.

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:38 am
by Afandy
Scoot Smart are directional tho? ...Uni & Omni has lost me a bit?.....

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:36 pm
by Marty ULC
The michelin city grip winter tyres fit one way on the front and the other way round on the back.
Might be what you want.

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:31 pm
by rossclark
Afandy wrote:Scoot Smart are directional tho? ...Uni & Omni has lost me a bit?.....


Uni - one
Omni - any

Looking at the pattern I'd agree they look like they could be one way, though if you zoom some of the pics, you can make out arrows in either direction, I think they might be opposite front and back, which I just don't get either...

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:54 am
by Afandy
Thanks Ross ....that's cleared that up then,

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:24 am
by Afandy
There is a rotation arrow on Scoot Smart tyres by the way ....

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:37 pm
by Knowledge
Yeah, I gave up worrying about the direction and got on with ordering the scootsmarts.

I have now heard that the supplier is out of stock, so I'm having to start all over again. Arrrgh.

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:17 pm
by Knowledge
I'm now looking at the Conitnetal Twist tyre. Interestingly, the SIP website says this:

Important information concerning the running direction:

After extensive testing, CONTI changed the running direction of some tyres. Especially scooters with a high center of gravity showed an increased wear of the front tyre. So don't be irritated if the running direction of new CONTI tyres differs from the present one.


Which does beg the question as to why have a directional arrow on, if the manufacturer can just reverse the direction of the arrow to reduce wear?

Re: Omni directional tyre options

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:58 pm
by bike grim
Go on M&Paccessories ( mandp.co.uk ) for scootsmarts. Just had a pair for £49 delivered. They do have directional arrow. They are good in wet and in the dry. I have also have had a puncture and it held its shape ok before going flat.