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22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:57 pm
by Andie
Hello - I am replacing my air filter to carb hose as I'm fitting a 22mm Jetex - is there a hose available that has the breather valve - like my 18mm S3 hose which just won't stretch

all i can find is the single piece GP style hose.
Thanks - Andrew
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:05 pm
by HxPaul
They didn't make a GP 22mm hose with a valve,I dont know if you can buy an after market one.
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:00 pm
by ToBoldlyGo
I'm not sure how effective those drain pipes could have been anyway.
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:24 pm
by Andie
Thanks. Would I be right in thinking most folks just fit a GP style rubber hose on then? That's if they still use the filter box and don't just wang a stand-alone filter on (which would be overkill on my Gori replica 175 TV conversion barrel tbh). I guess they were there for spit-back, possibly a bit of over-engineering? I'm all for simplicity.
Andrew
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:03 pm
by HxPaul
I have 2 scooters running 22mm jetex carbs with standard GP hoses through the airbox and they run just fine.
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:00 pm
by Andie
Thank you Paul. (and TBG)
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:25 pm
by rossclark
I've seen a workaround using an old cable adjuster, you cut off the bit where the cable ferrule would fit so you're just left with the a flat plate and you use the lock nut to secure it to the rubber.
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:58 pm
by Chadley
I've never been able to find a supplier of these. I believe the very early GPs had them fitted and some early GP fan cowls include a bracket to secure the drain pipe - mine does but it wasn't supplied with a drain valve type hose.
I get a bit of spit-back in the hose elbow and I've always suspected this to be the cause of occasional poor hot starting.
Here's a picture of one in the Innocenti GP150 owner's manual:

Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:58 am
by Andie
^^ I always wondered what that bracket was on my flywheel cowling
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:58 am
by ToBoldlyGo
I suppose the truth of the matter is that it made things cheaper and easier to manufacture. The GP was probably designed as a cost saving exercise.
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:38 pm
by Adam_Winstone
Rimini Lambretta had NOS of these a while back.
The common sealed type are fine and don't cause issue.
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:32 pm
by hullygully
(which would be overkill on my Gori replica 175 TV conversion barrel tbh).
Andy,
My 200cc Gori kitted TV175 has opperated thro' a hollowed out airbox with both a 25mm Jetex then 26mm rnd slide Dellorto with a GP's 22mm air hose.
cheers, Mike
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:18 pm
by Andie
Thanks Hullygully.
I am quite excited about the Gori replica 175 kit (S3 125 gearbox with a 17t front sprocket).
The engine's being rebuilt now; should be fine for quotidien usage.
A few people have suggested ways of fitting a 'leak pipe' to a standard 22mm air hose; but then it wouldn't have a one way valve and air would by-pass the filter.
I will get a sealed air hose and see how she goes.
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

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Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:29 am
by hullygully
be carefull with the Gori kit, my 200cc road tune barrels exhaust port was like a jap eye

but more importantly the length of the barrel was 1mm shorter than a standard one

, I ended up using a couple of RB20 head gaskets to get the correct squish after several head loosening experiences

, but this year she's done the Derby150 & 4 Nations, a good kit with after market tuning, GT scallopped out head & Wossner piston.

Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:30 pm
by prog54
Try Beedspeed, they supplied me with an old style series 2 hose with bottom drain pipe suitable for a 25ml Dellorto just a few weeks ago.
Re: 22 carb hose with breather?

Posted:
Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:48 pm
by Andie
prog54 wrote:Try Beedspeed, they supplied me with an old style series 2 hose with bottom drain pipe suitable for a 25ml Dellorto just a few weeks ago.
Thank you - I called them but they didn't have anything suitable.