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Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:22 pm
by Granty
Guys -- need to strip my outboard disc brake, is Dot 4 Fluid the fluid you use?
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:38 am
by coaster
DOT 4 minimum but use silicone fluid in preference over the cheaper glycol based stuff. Silicone won't absorb water and won't damage your paintwork if spilt.
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:09 am
by drivera
coaster wrote:DOT 4 minimum but use silicone fluid in preference over the cheaper glycol based stuff. Silicone won't absorb water and won't damage your paintwork if spilt.
As coaster says beware if using it , I spilt some on newly powder coated forks and the powder coating bubbled up a treat

Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:08 pm
by Granty
Perfect Troops -- thanks for that, I'm going to try the reverse bleed method too to see how I get on before I then take it down to the bike shop to get them done properly

Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:01 pm
by Toddy
Reverse Method is best through Bleed nipple with a syringe
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:26 pm
by Granty
Cheers Toddy, got my syringe and tube ordered today,ill report back if I actually make to do it. Hahaha
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:45 pm
by Toddy
Granty wrote:Cheers Toddy, got my syringe and tube ordered today,ill report back if I actually make to do it. Hahaha
It's the best way it forces the air upwards out of the calliper just be careful when you hear it coming into the master cylinder it sometimes sprays out

Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:29 am
by coaster
Toddy wrote:Granty wrote:Cheers Toddy, got my syringe and tube ordered today,ill report back if I actually make to do it. Hahaha
It's the best way it forces the air upwards out of the calliper just be careful when you hear it coming into the master cylinder it sometimes sprays out


I did mine with a syringe but used it to suck the fluid down from the master cylinder...worked a treat

Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:34 pm
by Wack
I've often thought of trying Dot 5 but most master cylinders have a warning to use Dot 4 only. I'm sure I read somewhere that the seals can be damaged with the wrong fluid?
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:57 am
by coaster
Wack wrote:I've often thought of trying Dot 5 but most master cylinders have a warning to use Dot 4 only. I'm sure I read somewhere that the seals can be damaged with the wrong fluid?
I've had it in the Nissin Master Cylinder on my scoot for about 5 years now without issue. I've had Nissin and SIP callipers fitted during that time too.
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:16 pm
by Wack
Sounds good

Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:20 pm
by bike grim
Isn't it 4 and 5.1 are Ok to use and the difference is to do with boiling points. Dot 5 is silicone I believe and that's why you don't mix with the others. I could be wrong so hopefully a grown up will be along soon.
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:46 pm
by Adam_Winstone
The silicon stuff is excellent and if, like me, you end up splashing the damned stuff everywhere whilst trying to bleed it, you'll be VERY glad of it not stripping paint! Harley Davidsons specify it for their bikes, which gives you a few extra outlets for the stuff as Harleys are pretty popular these days. I also like the funny looks that the staff give you when you tell them what it is for
Adam
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:49 pm
by Toddy
Adam_Winstone wrote:The silicon stuff is excellent and if, like me, you end up splashing the damned stuff everywhere whilst trying to bleed it, you'll be VERY glad of it not stripping paint! Harley Davidsons specify it for their bikes, which gives you a few extra outlets for the stuff as Harleys are pretty popular these days. I also like the funny looks that the staff give you when you tell them what it is for
Adam
Can you buy it online Adam ? ( any links) we don't have any Harley dealers round here will it be used in reliant robins

Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:00 pm
by Adam_Winstone
The Harley site is down at the moment but the following link might show you the image of what you're after:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=harle ... JDSIeIM%3A
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:02 pm
by Adam_Winstone
Dot 5 silicon fluid is the stuff that Dave Webster used to specify for his hydraulic front disc brakes, which was good enough for me. Apparently, DOT 5 is less likely to cause the seals to swell and result in the brake binding.
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:03 pm
by Toddy
That is one posh bottle

cheers Adam
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:29 pm
by coaster
You can buy it in any decent car parts shop, I even think I've seen it in Halfords.
Re: Dot 4 Brake Fluid OK?

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Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:48 pm
by Toddy
coaster wrote:You can buy it in any decent car parts shop, I even think I've seen it in Halfords.
What's wrong with halfords ?