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Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:53 pm
by TurboTrev
Anyone know if the threaded studs are cast into the alloy, or can they be removed and replaced - I've sheared one - see photo? If they can't be removed maybe a bit of threaded stud could be welded to the existing sheared stud? Any other suggestions for a repair? Also, what size are studs, I've lost the nut and they don't seem to be a size I have?? Thanks.

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Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:04 pm
by Adam_Winstone
I need to do similar some time too. However, looking at that makes me wonder if you could not fit an extended nut to what's left and then fit another short length of studding to that. This wouldn't be a great repair but might be a very functional fix.

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:28 pm
by rossclark
As its behind the badge couldn't you just drill it out and tap put a countersunk screw through?

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:35 pm
by TurboTrev
Adam_Winstone wrote:I need to do similar some time too. However, looking at that makes me wonder if you could not fit an extended nut to what's left and then fit another short length of studding to that. This wouldn't be a great repair but might be a very functional fix.

Thanks for the suggestion Adam, that sounds like it could work. :) Any idea what the stud/nut size is?

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:37 pm
by TurboTrev
rossclark wrote:As its behind the badge couldn't you just drill it out and tap put a countersunk screw through?

Yes, that sounds like it could also work, thanks for the suggestion.

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:40 pm
by MickYork
I'd cut off flush, drill and tap the hole, then fit a new stud.

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:08 pm
by TurboTrev
MickYork wrote:I'd cut off flush, drill and tap the hole, then fit a new stud.

Thanks, that would certainly be the neatest way and I will probably do that. In the meantime I had a quick go with Adam's idea:

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Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:28 pm
by gaz_powell
I think Adam was refereeing to these - it will give more thread to bike - cheap and easy fix

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALLTHREAD-ROD ... NcMMbxvG_w

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THREADED-ROD- ... 1765850513

Gaz

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:04 pm
by TurboTrev
gaz_powell wrote:I think Adam was refereeing to these - it will give more thread to bike - cheap and easy fix

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALLTHREAD-ROD ... NcMMbxvG_w

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THREADED-ROD- ... 1765850513

Gaz

Cheers Gaz, I like the 2nd ones, I think a repair with one of those would look pretty neat - just need to work out the what "M" size the stud is.

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:48 am
by Warkton Tornado No.1
I'm fairly certain that they are M6 (x 1.0 pitch). It's too late to check in my garage!

The suggestion (Adam's) of a long nut would work as the studs fit through massive holes in the frame. If the fasteners are M6, Toolstation sell ten for less than a quid. You might have to shorten them a bit though.

Let us know how you get on, please.

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:36 pm
by steve c
they are m5 originally

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:22 pm
by TurboTrev
Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:I'm fairly certain that they are M6 (x 1.0 pitch). It's too late to check in my garage!

The suggestion (Adam's) of a long nut would work as the studs fit through massive holes in the frame. If the fasteners are M6, Toolstation sell ten for less than a quid. You might have to shorten them a bit though.

Let us know how you get on, please.

Right I had a look on tool station and I spotted the joiners, thanks. However, I thought I would return to the nut idea because the depth of the nut is about the maximum you can go to otherwise the badge clamp will hit the joiner and be prevented from tightening up against the frame. Even with my earlier effort this was a problem so I cut off a couple of more threads so the nut was hard against the grill. I then threaded the bolt in and lopped a bit off the length so it matched the other side. I then wound a nut down to the bottom of the good stud so it looked the same as the repaired side. I tried it on the scooter and it tightens up perfectly, but only just so I don't think a longer joiner could be used. Anyhow it will do for me!

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Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:18 pm
by Adam_Winstone
Nicely executed but the longer nut, with stud araldited in, would have given an even more secure fix.

Nicely done though :)

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:41 pm
by monument7
Done a few of these but I have access to a lathe. Hold the boss at back in a three jaw, centre drill and drill and tap for M5 from the front then fit a stud. Not much help if you don't have a lathe I know but it's another option.

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:00 pm
by gaz_powell
/\/\/\/\ access to a lathe and the rest ......ive seen what you have access to ;)

Gaz

Re: Rear Badge Holder - repair? (Photo)

PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:35 pm
by monument7
Toys Gaz, just toys :-)