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ScootRS Bleeding brakes

Posted:
Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:23 pm
by baroda26
Today I went for and MOT on the way my hydraulic front brake locked on me would not release
Found the fault the idiot who installed tied the hose to the forks the hose was 3 inches to long and kinked at greater that 90 degrees then pressure could not bleed off
New hose bought, fitted, new brake fluid -- no way would the brakes bleed 4 hours wasted time WHY
On the floor I found a small stainless steel flap valve small round solid piece with an offset and then another round section with location pegs hard to describe I do not think its anything to do with the brakes
In the reservoir there are 2 holes for fluid to enter piston is there any chance this bit is part of that tried comparing on web pages noting seems to be present
SO Can anyone advise me please before I take it the the bike shop
Cheers Terry
Re: ScootRS Bleeding brakes

Posted:
Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:28 pm
by Freight10
Terry,
Had exactly the same fault 3 weeks ago, spent 2 days trying it myself, brought a vacuum pump bleed system....nothing...
Mot guy then spent 3 hours trying to bleed it, changed every component 1 at a time, end result was the new brake hose banjo at the master cylinder end was not straight (unseen by the naked eye) but enough to suck in air, result was....filed down the top banjo and works fine...
Trevor
Re: ScootRS Bleeding brakes

Posted:
Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:48 pm
by Wack
The stainless flap is a push fit in the reservoir bottom over one of the holes and one of the main problems with the RS disc is the banjo bolts( if using the kit ones) are too long on the shoulder and the bolt bottoms out before trapping the sealing washers ,so either machine the shoulder down, change the bolts or fit thicker washers.
Re: ScootRS Bleeding brakes

Posted:
Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:51 pm
by baroda26
Wack
Should the SS flap be held in place and what use does it serve
Banjo bolts do trap the washers and no leaks are apparent
Going to use the syringe and push the fluid up from the bleed nipple anyone done this before
Cheers Terry
Re: ScootRS Bleeding brakes

Posted:
Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:40 pm
by Granty
baroda26 wrote:Wack
Should the SS flap be held in place and what use does it serve
Banjo bolts do trap the washers and no leaks are apparent
Going to use the syringe and push the fluid up from the bleed nipple anyone done this before
Cheers Terry
Terry -- I did the reverse bleed method with a syringe on my outboard disc set up, took me 15 mins, easy peasy after trying to bleed them old school for days. Once I had the Reservoir full & o air in the system as a belt & braces job I put a bleed hose from the bleed nipple into some brake fluid in a jar and gaffa taped the brake lever in overnight just to be sure.
Its absolutely perfect now -- G
Re: ScootRS Bleeding brakes

Posted:
Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:09 pm
by baroda26
Thanks I will feed back on how I got on
I Think the SS flap is a red herring something from somewhere else one day I will remember where
Cheers Terry
Re: ScootRS Bleeding brakes

Posted:
Mon May 02, 2016 9:35 pm
by baroda26
to all
Got the syringe and some tube
Filled syringe and tube with brake fluid
Fitted tube to bleed nipple opened the bleed nipple
Pressed the syringe and like magic the oil started to fill reservoir
Job done what a good idea its so easy
Cheers Terry