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Was under the impression any vehicle over 40 yrs old could qualify for 'historical vehicle tax' . A V11 form has come in stating £39 for a years tax. The scoot is a Jet 200 first registered Jan '76. Can anybody throw any light on the matter, thanks in advance.......

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also when your tax class changes to historic, you can now put black and white plates on it.

If it was registered in the first week of 1976, you might be able to claim historic status now - any later and you will have to wait until April this year. My GP curryburner is in exactly the same situation - allegedly registered Jan 1st 1976 - rang up DVLA and got nowhere....roll on April...

Historic vehicle tax eligibility used to depend on when a vehicle was manufactured.
Since the changes in legislation it appears to depend on when a vehicle was first registered.
Per DVLA:-
Eligibility
The date your vehicle was first registered affects whether you need to:
get an MOT
pay vehicle tax
Date the vehicle was first registered
1. 8 January 1976 onwards
You must get an MOT and pay vehicle tax.
2. 1 January 1960 to 7 January 1976
You must get an MOT, but don’t have to pay vehicle tax.
3. Before 1 January 1960
You don’t need to get an MOT or pay vehicle tax.

As 1976 vehicles can be declared as historic in April 2017, even though you have to pay the £39 for 12 months up front now, declaring it as a historic vehicle on 1st April 2017 means that most of it will be refunded. In reality, you will have to pay for about three months tax - well, that's what I'm hoping.....

citydaz wrote:also when your tax class changes to historic, you can now put black and white plates on it.

That I didn't know. Think I'll stick with the full size yellow on my 74 jet though. It looks more the part.

ToBoldlyGo wrote:

citydaz wrote:also when your tax class changes to historic, you can now put black and white plates on it.

That I didn't know. Think I'll stick with the full size yellow on my 74 jet though. It looks more the part.

That's the first I've heard of that too

Summer last year I ordered a yellow/70's font number plate that would have been fitted to the Jan 76 jet.
I was given the option of black/silver because the bike was in 'historic vehicle' bracket.
My personal opinion is the jets apart from the gold 60's ones ,by law & in reality have never had black number plates and wouldn't look right.Even the 72 jet's that legaly could have been fitted with the black ones In the main weren't.

I find it odd that DVLA are now permitting vehicles from the early 1970s to be fitted with non-reflective plates, when they were not allowed to be fitted with them from new. The reflective plates were introduced for safety reasons, to increase the chances of a vehicle without lights (maybe parked) being seen by other drivers using headlights. Fit the black & silver plates by all means, but just be careful where you park after dark!

Steve J wrote:I find it odd that DVLA are now permitting vehicles from the early 1970s to be fitted with non-reflective plates, when they were not allowed to be fitted with them from new. The reflective plates were introduced for safety reasons, to increase the chances of a vehicle without lights (maybe parked) being seen by other drivers using headlights. Fit the black & silver plates by all means, but just be careful where you park after dark!

Yes, I agree. I looked it up on the hm.gov website and it is indeed the case, although many testers at MOT stations may not be aware just yet.
Perversely though fitting black & white plates on a scoot that originally had yellow black, isnt historic at all.

citydaz wrote:also when your tax class changes to historic, you can now put black and white plates on it.

I should get out more but that sounds really bonkers, somehow like editing history.

citydaz wrote:also when your tax class changes to historic, you can now put black and white plates on it.

Took mine off and replaced with reflective backing and stick on numbers,looked better imo but each to his own.

citydaz wrote:also when your tax class changes to historic, you can now put black and white plates on it.

This isn't true,you still have to have reflective plates if your vehicle was made after 1st January 1973.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_r ... erritories

HxPaul wrote:

citydaz wrote:also when your tax class changes to historic, you can now put black and white plates on it.

This isn't true,you still have to have reflective plates if your vehicle was made after 1st January 1973.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_r ... erritories

No so. Below taken from the DVLA site. However there seems to be some confusion even on their site as this refers to when a vehicle was built as opposed to registered per my earlier post above.

Vehicles that can display black and silver plates
Since April 2015 vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1975 can display the older style plates. You must:
have applied to DVLA, and
be registered within the ‘historic vehicles’ tax class.
This allows your vehicle to retain its authenticity and be in keeping with its age.
Vehicles constructed 40 or more years ago are exempt from vehicle tax.
The 40 year exemption date rolls forward automatically each year on 1 April. (i.e. now 1st January 1976)

landybretta wrote:

HxPaul wrote:

citydaz wrote:also when your tax class changes to historic, you can now put black and white plates on it.

This isn't true,you still have to have reflective plates if your vehicle was made after 1st January 1973.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_r ... erritories

No so. Below taken from the DVLA site. However there seems to be some confusion even on their site as this refers to when a vehicle was built as opposed to registered per my earlier post above.

Vehicles that can display black and silver plates
Since April 2015 vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1975 can display the older style plates. You must:
have applied to DVLA, and
be registered within the ‘historic vehicles’ tax class.
This allows your vehicle to retain its authenticity and be in keeping with its age.
Vehicles constructed 40 or more years ago are exempt from vehicle tax.
The 40 year exemption date rolls forward automatically each year on 1 April. (i.e. now 1st January 1976)

My apologies,your right.This Law was legislated for in the finance bill 2014,the DVLA mustn't have notified wickipedia of the change.

never trust anything on wikipedia.
any fool is free to edit the content.