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chrome frame collar fitting

Posted:
Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:11 pm
by mr mugello
Will cooling metal chrome collar in a freezer help ease fitment in the frame tube ?
Re: chrome frame collar fitting

Posted:
Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:36 pm
by Knowledge
Worth a try, but if my experience of getting one out last week was not fun.
It is brittle, so don't hit it too hard.
Re: chrome frame collar fitting

Posted:
Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:08 pm
by mr mugello
Original rechromed fitted back in a lot easier than getting out. Well worth the hassle removing. Religning the grub screw with hole I was concerned with messing up, but able to push in frame by hand three quarters of way.
Re: chrome frame collar fitting

Posted:
Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:08 pm
by Phil D
mr mugello wrote:Original rechromed fitted back in a lot easier than getting out. Well worth the hassle removing. Religning the grub screw with hole I was concerned with messing up, but able to push in frame by hand three quarters of way.
Just out of interest what's the going rate for a C/R re-chrome at the moment?
Re: chrome frame collar fitting

Posted:
Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:52 am
by mr mugello
Spoke too soon. Every thing was going well. Fitting headset bottom, the gap is not even. One side is up to 2mm roughly different. Never noticed this before removal, but my eye picks up these when refitting. Bit annoying. Can either headset clamp and collar be prone to distorting even though cast items ? Thanks
Re: chrome frame collar fitting

Posted:
Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:52 pm
by Warkton Tornado No.1
Even with non-chrome ring headsets you might need to adjust the seating of the headset by fitting shims (washers) of varying thicknesses between the headset casting & the headset clamp. It can take considerable time to get the fit right.
You can’t just ‘assemble‘ Lambrettas, you have to ‘fit’ them.
It wouldn't be the first time that the slot in the fork (where the clamp screw engages) has had to be widened upwards or downwards to allow a better fit of the headset to the leg-shields....
Re: chrome frame collar fitting

Posted:
Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:25 pm
by mr mugello
Phil D wrote:mr mugello wrote:Original rechromed fitted back in a lot easier than getting out. Well worth the hassle removing. Religning the grub screw with hole I was concerned with messing up, but able to push in frame by hand three quarters of way.
Just out of interest what's the going rate for a C/R re-chrome at the moment?
paid £23 including postage at Quality Chrome Hull.
Re: chrome frame collar fitting

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Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:26 pm
by mr mugello
Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:Even with non-chrome ring headsets you might need to adjust the seating of the headset by fitting shims (washers) of varying thicknesses between the headset casting & the headset clamp. It can take considerable time to get the fit right.
You can’t just ‘assemble‘ Lambrettas, you have to ‘fit’ them.
It wouldn't be the first time that the slot in the fork (where the clamp screw engages) has had to be widened upwards or downwards to allow a better fit of the headset to the leg-shields....
Thanks will give shims ago.
Re: chrome frame collar fitting

Posted:
Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:42 pm
by Warkton Tornado No.1
mr mugello wrote:Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:Even with non-chrome ring headsets you might need to adjust the seating of the headset by fitting shims (washers) of varying thicknesses between the headset casting & the headset clamp. It can take considerable time to get the fit right.
You can’t just ‘assemble‘ Lambrettas, you have to ‘fit’ them.
It wouldn't be the first time that the slot in the fork (where the clamp screw engages) has had to be widened upwards or downwards to allow a better fit of the headset to the leg-shields....
Thanks will give shims ago.
Perhaps this is ‘too much’ information, but as I have the Helicoiling kit to hand, I have from time to time, Helicoiled to M6 so avoiding having to use nuts @ the bottom. Just screw straight into the clamp, preferably with an M6 SHCS (Socket Head Cap Screw). Now, that does make life a lot easier, especially when shimming!
Another one of my ‘Top Tips’

Hah!
Re: chrome frame collar fitting

Posted:
Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:40 pm
by mr mugello
Fitting a thin shim through one of the bolts between headset base and clamp bracket done the trick.