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A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 4:57 pm
by Tractorman
Sorry looking BGM.jpg


The combo starting to run badly and did not sound right on the way to Larling. This is why

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:03 pm
by ToBoldlyGo
What have you done to it? :shock:

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:13 pm
by Storkfoot
Did all the fixing points line up okay? Could it be that the swan neck attachment was under stress because it did not line up with the connections at the stub and tailpipe?

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:36 pm
by Warkton Tornado No.1
It would be interesting to gain the manufacturer’s opinion on the failure because the steel has fractured in a way that you would expect only high carbon steel could!

It appears brittle as if work hardened through heat, not strain, much like you might expect of cast iron...

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:43 pm
by dickie
Mine did the same thing but on the underside of the box. It was under no stress at all but had been loose for about 100 miles.

It was nowhere near as bad as that and I managed to get it welded before it went completely.

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 8:43 pm
by Watfordwhite
WOW. And you didn't notice to noise before hand?
I would say that's F*******d :shock:

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 9:34 am
by Topgearskin
My first bgm clubman did a similar thing, after about 1000 miles

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Replaced by Scooter-centre, but disappointing considering. I was relieved I hadn't had it coated as that isn't covered in the Warranty. Anyone ever had this happen on an AF clubman?

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:31 pm
by Storkfoot
I lost a tailpipe on a French motorway and, yes, in hindsight the steel did fracture in that sort of "sharp" fashion.

That said, whilst I had fettled the exhaust to suit a 115 conrod, with hindsight, there was still a pull on the tailpipe. Only slight though.

All welded up and still being used though.

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 5:12 pm
by Watfordwhite
Don't say that Topgearskin. Mine has just gone on and cost a small fortune. TBH I am a closet MBD fan.

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 5:45 pm
by lozmondo
Which version is it?

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 7:38 pm
by Donnie
Bugger, will have to keep a close eye on mine!

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:36 pm
by Topgearskin
lozmondo wrote:Which version is it?

The one that failed was (I believe) version two. The one I have now is version 3.

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 8:44 pm
by dickie
Topgearskin wrote:
lozmondo wrote:Which version is it?

The one that failed was (I believe) version two. The one I have now is version 3.


Mine that failed that way is v3

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:10 pm
by lozmondo
My original V1 has lastest very well, but the later versions seem to have had problems fracturing in various places.Hence the new design and manufacturer I guess....Just off to the post office to collect my V4 ...

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 12:32 am
by missing lynx
looking at the pictures it's not a design problem but there being made with the wrong type of steel

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:50 am
by burnside
That's a bit worrying, will have to check mine tonight (V2), mine is loud but put that down to the baffles being shot to pieces!

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:55 am
by NorthernJordan
Topgearskin wrote:My first bgm clubman did a similar thing, after about 1000 miles

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Replaced by Scooter-centre, but disappointing considering. I was relieved I hadn't had it coated as that isn't covered in the Warranty. Anyone ever had this happen on an AF clubman?


yeah, I have... AF one disintegrated on the way to the IOW a couple of years ago. Tail pipe gone, main bracket gone and it was literally just hanging on by the studs!

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 11:58 am
by Topgearskin
I've used AF clubman exhausts for years and never seen one go like this. I've had them have issues with age through rust, but never had one so new have a "terminal" failure. Worst I've experienced is the tailpipe bracket snapping on a twin pipe. Now I appreciate that they don't perform as well......

Re: A sorry looking BGM

PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2017 4:59 pm
by St George
Makes me think that it is soft Chinese steel, there are exhausts on lambrettas 40 years and older still going strong. No disrespect meant to manufacturers.