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To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby Knowledge » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:56 am

I have a taxed scooter, but the MOT and insurance have lapsed. It is not going back on the road just yet, as I have other projects on the go.

I know some rules have changed in the last few years, but can I be fined for no insurance even though the scooter is not on the road?

Would it be best to SORN it?
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby MickYork » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:09 am

From experience..............Yes you would be fined for no insurance........

My argument that a mechanic, who had insurance cover, was fixing it and needed to road test it (so couldn't SORN it), gained me sympathy from DVLA......and a £100 fine.
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby gizmo » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:20 am

Sorn it, takes all the ifs and buts away and its easy to sorn and then tax again at a later date
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby CHRIS in MARGATE » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:39 am

Been done twice !
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby burnside » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:26 am

You get threatening letters followed by a fine from MID now if your vehicle does not have insurance and isn't SORN'd, so yes SORN it
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby landybretta » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:50 am

I would still insure it for fire and theft if it were mine. I did this when I was rebuilding mine. no problem with the insurance company as long as you give tell them what you are doing.
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby Andie » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:43 am

landybretta wrote:I would still insure it for fire and theft if it were mine. I did this when I was rebuilding mine. no problem with the insurance company as long as you give tell them what you are doing.


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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby Knowledge » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:43 am

Thanks for the consensus.
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby Fast n Furious » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:38 pm

So... Have I got this right?
You can be prosecuted for having no insurance on a vehicle that is taxed, but isn't on the public highway?
Persecuted I would except. There is always some tosser who will try to demand monies with menaces.
As for Prosecuted, I'm not sure how a judge of good standing would view that.
I wonder if anyone has pursued this through the courts and how they faired?
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby MickYork » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:22 pm

Fast n Furious wrote:So... Have I got this right?
You can be prosecuted for having no insurance on a vehicle that is taxed, but isn't on the public highway?
Persecuted I would except. There is always some tosser who will try to demand monies with menaces.
As for Prosecuted, I'm not sure how a judge of good standing would view that.
I wonder if anyone has pursued this through the courts and how they faired?


Yep you got it right. makes no sense to me either.
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby jonno » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:53 pm

I have reverse situation. Scooter currently insured but is with a dealer being fixed.Tax ran out end of june also mot,while at dealer.Will send him an email so he can put on trade plates if hes got any.I spose no mot invalidates the insurance tho?
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby dave81 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:03 pm

If you look up SORN on the gov.uk website it says you should declare it if you do not want to pay tax and insurance. It should be kept off the public roads ie kept in garage, on drive, or private land . Any remaining tax will be refunded although I don't know if the amount we pay comes into it but why not?
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby burnside » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:06 pm

Fast n Furious wrote:So... Have I got this right?
You can be prosecuted for having no insurance on a vehicle that is taxed, but isn't on the public highway?
Persecuted I would except. There is always some tosser who will try to demand monies with menaces.
As for Prosecuted, I'm not sure how a judge of good standing would view that.
I wonder if anyone has pursued this through the courts and how they faired?


If it is on SORN you do not have to insurance it. So if it is not being used on a public highway then you just need to get it SORN'd.
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby Knowledge » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:49 pm

It has been SORN
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Re: To SORN, or not to SORN

Postby gizmo » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:38 am

Knowledge wrote:It have been SORN

Well done that man :)
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