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Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:47 pm
by davla
Hi guys, just thought I'd share this with you. I recently rebuilt my engine and roughly set the timing by aligning the mark on the stator with the flywheel because my strobe light gun was broken, it ran ok but I wasn't happy that I hadn't set it up properly. I ordered a new light and checked it yesterday and it was miles out, it must have been around 30deg TDC! Anyway I spent some time double checking TDC and 19deg TDC and after a number of attempts at adjusting the stator I got the timing set correctly and it now runs great. So as tempting as it might be to just align the stator with the flywheel and leave, don't do it!
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

Posted:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:52 pm
by foremanbob
Try setting it up with a BGM flywheel with no window... proper PITA that is to get it right...
Well done for finally realising that static timing is never really enough....
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:57 pm
by davla
foremanbob wrote:Try setting it up with a BGM flywheel with no window... proper PITA that is to get it right...
Well done for finally realising that static timing is never really enough....
TBH the holes in the flywheel were no help, I still whipped the flywheel off about half a dozen times to get it right.
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:10 pm
by MickYork
davla wrote:foremanbob wrote:Try setting it up with a BGM flywheel with no window... proper PITA that is to get it right...
Well done for finally realising that static timing is never really enough....
TBH the holes in the flywheel were no help,
I still whipped the flywheel off about half a dozen times to get it right.
That's where the external pick-ups from Antony Tambs are a godsend......
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:19 am
by davla
MickYork wrote:davla wrote:foremanbob wrote:Try setting it up with a BGM flywheel with no window... proper PITA that is to get it right...
Well done for finally realising that static timing is never really enough....
TBH the holes in the flywheel were no help,
I still whipped the flywheel off about half a dozen times to get it right.
That's where the external pick-ups from Antony Tambs are a godsend......
Just looked this up, looks good but probably takes longer to fit than setting up timing conventions way?
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:52 am
by HxPaul
I've got 2 12v Indian electronic kits on 2 of my scooters,I set them both up manually but when I strobed them I found that both were miles out.
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:23 am
by Phil D
I don't pretend to know much about Lambretta electrics but the external pick up is a brilliant idea.
Ok you have to spend a bit of time fitting it but if that's the only negative count me in - I bought one.
In fact all Mr Tambs products look fantastic properly tested products made by someone who actually knows his stuff.
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:01 pm
by davla
Phil D wrote:I don't pretend to know much about Lambretta electrics but the external pick up is a brilliant idea.
Ok you have to spend a bit of time fitting it but if that's the only negative count me in - I bought one.
In fact all Mr Tambs products look fantastic properly tested products made by someone who actually knows his stuff.
How much is the kit out of interest?
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

Posted:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:06 pm
by Phil D
£30 inc p+p
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

Posted:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:37 pm
by davla
Phil D wrote:£30 inc p+p
Well you can't really grumble at that can you? Has he got a website?
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

Posted:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:43 pm
by martyn dwane
Phil D wrote:I don't pretend to know much about Lambretta electrics but the external pick up is a brilliant idea.
Ok you have to spend a bit of time fitting it but if that's the only negative count me in - I bought one.
In fact all Mr Tambs products look fantastic properly tested products made by someone who actually knows his stuff.
You can even use your old points flywheel.
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

Posted:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:45 pm
by MickYork
another advantage is that your internal pick-up can be left in place and disconnected at the CDI then used as a quick replacement if the external one fails. It would take less than a minute to swap the wires back.
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:48 pm
by dickie
I'm not convinced personally.
I used one but to be honest I'm just a sucker for novel ideas. The amount of time fitting was way in excess of just removing and refitting a flywheel a few times. Especially as the bracket failed. He replaced it free of charge, but I'd definitely have had an easier life if I'd just stuck with the internal pick up.
Very easy on the dyno when I was experimenting with different firing angles.
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:52 pm
by Phil D
davla wrote:Phil D wrote:£30 inc p+p
Well you can't really grumble at that can you? Has he got a website?
I'll pm you -not sure it may be breaking forum rules- regards advertising.
Re: Setting up timing with SIL electronic kit

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Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:21 am
by gp200ts1
Phil D wrote:davla wrote:Phil D wrote:£30 inc p+p
Well you can't really grumble at that can you? Has he got a website?
I'll pm you -not sure it may be breaking forum rules- regards advertising.
Can you pm me the link too please?