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Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:44 pm
by La chevre
Evening
Want to install a new steering lock to my series 1. Removed the screw inside the headset not sure how the rest of the barrel is removed ? Mustt be seasoned steering lock master out there who can give me a steer on this!
Thx
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:42 pm
by MK Monty
This was covered a few months ago. With the screw out, and headset top off, you will see a small round aluminium disk that you can tap out with a small screwdriver. It’s just a dust cap and can be reused if you are carfull. Under the cap you should see the tail end of the lock that should simply push out the front. The tail of the lock is a cam that as it turns with the key pushes a small springloaded piston down to locate in the chrome ring if you have one. Many are broken as they won’t deter the low life of today. If you have the key you can normally just pull the lock out. But a screwdriver from the back will dislodge it.
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:35 pm
by La chevre
Thanks for that it must be the dust cap that’s confusing me . Did look in sticky’s Manuel but not a lot in there relating to for a series 1 steering lock.
Appreciate the reply .
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:54 pm
by Raveydavey
My advice would be to leave it be. I tried and failed to get my lock out without damaging it. The screwdriver suggestion below pushed the lock centre out but left the rest In place. That should have a red flag...but I kept on going.

Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:55 pm
by Raveydavey
Jem booth can cut you a key if you send him the number
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:51 pm
by La chevre
Thanks Ravey proceed with caution..
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:52 am
by mainstand
MK Monty wrote:This was covered a few months ago. With the screw out, and headset top off, you will see a small round aluminium disk that you can tap out with a small screwdriver. It’s just a dust cap and can be reused if you are carfull. Under the cap you should see the tail end of the lock that should simply push out the front. The tail of the lock is a cam that as it turns with the key pushes a small springloaded piston down to locate in the chrome ring if you have one. Many are broken as they won’t deter the low life of today. If you have the key you can normally just pull the lock out. But a screwdriver from the back will dislodge it.
I'm struggling with this. I locked mine & couldn't get it unlocked. Ordered a new key from Jem Booth..great service btw...but it still wouldn't unlock.. I have got the dust cap off, put a small screwdriver at the back of the lock and tried to lever it forward (is this the right way to do it?)...and although with the key in it wiggles about it just will not move forward.
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 7:42 am
by MK Monty
You don’t say if when you turn the key can you see the cam flip over on the inside. The lock may well be turning but the piston is sticking down so you can not turn the bars. Get some lube down there. If you look at the casting inside the headset just in front of the round disc you should have a set screw of some type remove this as it locks the barrel of the lock into the headset. If that’s out then it’s only paint or corrosion holding it in.
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:58 am
by mainstand
MK Monty wrote:You don’t say if when you turn the key can you see the cam flip over on the inside. The lock may well be turning but the piston is sticking down so you can not turn the bars. Get some lube down there. If you look at the casting inside the headset just in front of the round disc you should have a set screw of some type remove this as it locks the barrel of the lock into the headset. If that’s out then it’s only paint or corrosion holding it in.
Nothing is flipping over, neither is the lock turning. It's on 'lock' permanently & will not shift, also there is no screw that I can see. It's a relatively new rebuild, so no corrosion.

When I removed the dust cover all I can see is the top of the lock past the screw on display in the pic. I can't see any screw as I said. It is a Spanish S2 if that makes any difference.
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:38 pm
by HxPaul
Have you removed the screw that goes into the hole in your photo,this screw fastens the lock into the headset,once removed the lock should be removed (created once the blanking plug is removed)with a small screwdriver.
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:13 pm
by mainstand
I said I can't see any screw mate, might have another look later...or go specsavers.

Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:31 pm
by mainstand
Well I can't see any screw. As I said, this is a Spanish S2.

Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:13 pm
by MK Monty
Ok you had me with the original thread being a series 1. Agreed your series 2 Spanish doesn't seem to have a screw unless its hiding under the brown wire or further back under the kill switch. Does your lock have the flip up cover as shown in the picture or is it just round. I'm wondering if the screw is up from under but I don't know the Spanish ones. On another tack when you turn the key does the barrel of the lock turn at all. Your picture shows the cam with the flat showing up so the semi circle is down pushing the spring loaded piston down cocking the headset. It should turn half a turn so the piston can rise 3 or 4 mm onto the flat bit. If it turns but the piston sticks down its still locked. loads of WD or the like may help. other than that try and snap the flat bit off and fish out the piston. Bit drastic but better than simply snatching the headset round breaking the headset or chrome ring etc. At least you can use the bike
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:16 pm
by mainstand
I spoke to the fella who did the build and sold me the scoot, but he can't remember. I really don't want to faff about taking the whole bottom headset off, neither do I want to get the drills out. It is the type with a flap on the lock. I can't turn the key so the barrel of the lock doesn't move. I've launched loads of WD40 down there, I've had thin files behind it trying to lever it forward...it simply won't budge anyway you need it to.
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:38 pm
by HxPaul
mainstand wrote:Well I can't see any screw. As I said, this is a Spanish S2.

If you remove the cut-out switch,is the grub screw under there.
http://www.newtoyouhomes.com/jbsitefold ... inhole.jpg
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:38 pm
by mainstand
Cheers Pal. I've have a butchers in the week.
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:52 pm
by mainstand
All done. Cheers HX Paul.
Re: Series 1 steering lock

Posted:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:03 pm
by MK Monty
We can only lead you to water
