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Bearing up grade rear pinion gear

Postby mm man » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:35 am

Hi
Is there any reason why I can't fit two of the larger 6004 (12mm) wide bearings to the rear pinion drive gear on my D as opposed to one fat and one thin (8mm) if I fit the two larger ones it will give me around a 15mm spacer for the oil seal (10mm wide)to sit in.
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Re: Bearing up grade rear pinion gear

Postby jbcollier » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:59 pm

Are we talking about the pinion gear bearings for the rear axle's bevel gear set? My parts book lists them as the same bearing at either end. It's too long ago for me to remember which bearing I used. As long as the pinion is held in position securely with no axial play, and the seal fits in the spacer, a wider bearing is fine. It is not a failure point as long as the there's oil in the tranny and rear axle.
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Re: Bearing up grade rear pinion gear

Postby Steve J » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:51 pm

OK, here goes - the earlier LDs, up to around 1956 or 1957, had two 16004 bearings supporting the pinion, each bearing being 8mm wide. The later Italian ones had a 6004 bearing (12mm wide) closest to the pinion teeth, and a 16004 bearing at the other side of the spacer, which was 4mm thinner. The reason for the change was that the bearing closest to the pinion teeth took most of the load, and the 16004 bearing just wasn't up to the job, especially after a few thousand miles. (I had one of these collapse without warning on a Mk2 LD - it removed all the teeth from the pinion, and a couple from the crownwheel.)

The French LD125 Mk4 used a 6004 bearing at each end, with a spacer which was a further 4mm thinner, and the same type of oilseal (10mm thick) between the two bearings. I think the only reason for doing that was for production reasons - 6004 bearings are generally cheaper than 16004 bearings, and there's no chance of getting the thinner bearing in the wrong place during assembly.

I'm currently assembling a tailcase with a French 125 crownwheel & pinion, and I'm using the 2 x 6004 setup. I'm also using an oilseal which is only 8mm thick, mainly because it's less than half the price of a 10mm thick one! :idea:
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Re: Bearing up grade rear pinion gear

Postby mm man » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:22 pm

If the set up is good enough for you Steve and the French then it's good enough for me !
I got two skf bearings and a skf oil seal for £3 each so not going to break the bank for some reliability ! as when I stripped my engine down the original 8mm bearing was in pieces so a common fault I believe.
Thanks again for all help given
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