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Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:49 pm
by carlos fandango
Well time for a winter project :)

I brought a basket case LD 57 80% complete about 4 years ago with the intention of putting a Cagiva mito / RS125 engine in it. unfortunately the very next day i came off on the way to work on some diesel and tore a ligament off my thumb :( which meant three month off work and the project got shelved.

In the last four years i decided the bike engined conversion was probably beyond my skill level :) and thought id settle on a "normal" S1,2,3, engine.
I got the tube off a friend who was restoring an S2 and need a new loop .

So out with the grinder :evil:
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Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:04 pm
by duncan1958
ooo this could be interesting
I look forward to following your progress

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:21 am
by Toddy
Intersting Russ :D Just how many projects do you have on the go ?? :lol: :lol:

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:31 am
by Angry Bloke
Should be an interesting winter Russ - look forward seeing your updates 8-)

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:37 pm
by Rich Oswald
Looking forward to this one Russ :D

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:03 pm
by Frautzi
Look forward to seeing this. Somthing i've thought of doing but will proberbly never get around to.

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:38 pm
by carlos fandango
Toddy wrote:Intersting Russ :D Just how many projects do you have on the go ?? :lol: :lol:


Well.............the lince is just about done .........just needs registering :)

My old series one , that started out as a simple reframe , turned into a bit more :( .....and thats virtually done , but again needs registering :)

This one ....I only started as I had a job posponed and was at a bit of a loose end , so thought id spend a Friday afternoon with my friend Mr angle grinder :D

The two pics are from nearly two weeks ago , and ive moved on quite a bit :D
I dont know how far ill get with it this year as ive hit a bit of a snag :( more about that later.

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 7:42 pm
by Lammer205
Hi Russell,

Have a look on scooterotica ,show your scoot page 2 at the thread LDish by Gerryjunior, he is a member of the LCI he built one last year had it in Wales for the 4nations a mad little machine. Lammer205

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:14 pm
by carlos fandango
Yes mate seen it last year :D

Theres a few about :D , ive been looking at them a lot lately , I find a lot of them sit to high , so ive spent quite a bit of time trying to get it to look right :D

Anyway, we've saved the Vodka for the ISC party in Brid ! :P Cheers mate :D

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 10:43 pm
by carlos fandango
So this was the first fit ,and just trying to decide where to cut. This is/was a mk3 57 model and has a tool box in the back, and i decided i wanted to try and keep it if possible . It would of been a lot easier to cut it out ! but, hey, who want easy :D
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so out with the grinder again.
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and its getting nearer .
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I had to make up a shroud to go around the shocker and seal the tool bxo up, as you can see , i initially cut a little to much out to start with :oops: but that can be welded back in :)
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The shocker top mount is a problem area , as really the loop needs to go lower , but would mean cutting the loop around the shocker , but thats no good, so a few hours of trial and error, and head scratching to decide on the best position .
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Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:10 pm
by LateAgain
Nice work Russ...

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:32 pm
by peejay
the plastic barrel and head looks cool :)

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:41 pm
by carlos fandango
peejay wrote:the plastic barrel and head looks cool :)


Its a prototype ? its got a wooden piston as well ;)

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:15 pm
by carlos fandango
Getting the loop into a good position and with the clearance for the top shock mount is the first problem.

The next consideration is the legshields, in relationship to the loop. Most conversions ive seen use a fabricated bridge piece, i wanted to try and do it as the ld was done, without . The loop needed cutting

and leg shields needs altering and extended a little.

Interestingly , well at least to me :) the holes in the ld leggies line up with the (in my case ) S2 floor struts :D

Most people ive talked too have used an Ld tube forward of the bridge area, i couldnt understand why ? plus its easier (for me) to use a "normal" tube..... Perhaps its because the angles are slightly different ? a few cuts seemed to make them fit.

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Once i got the leggies positioned i could level the loop up and tack it on :)

WARNING !!! dont look at my welding ! ...as you may have noticed from the surroundings in the pics , wood is my material :D not metal ....ill get a professional to weld it up properly :)

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Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:00 pm
by duncan1958
Slow but sure,taking shape.
Nice one.

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:50 am
by carlos fandango
Heres a further update

Now trying to sort the front end out and more trial and error :)
And im quite pleased how its sitting and looking

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Not to sure if im going to use the headset/cover ??
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Ive been fighting to get the loop and other thing to line up with the tube from the start, id get one part straight and another area was off. The more i looked at it, and eyed it up, i had a suspicion that the tube was bent :?
So a trip up to Gran Sport and on their jig, and the conclusion was that the tube was quite severely bent, from infront of the stand strut :( looks like it had had a smack from the l/h side, pushing the tube to the right and the steering column to the left :cry: Not an easy repair, but can be done .
Im now just waiting to get it back, before i can do anymore.

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:53 pm
by carlos fandango
Well its been a while , i got the frame back about three weeks ago, but then my panel beater/fabricator went AWOL :? and i haven't been able to get hold of him :( So there was no option, but to get the MIG out and have ago myself :) .....well whats the worse that can happen ?....... and ive got a grinder to "adjust" any mistakes !

WARNING ! if your a Welder, and of a "nervous disposition" you may want to look away now ! :shock: :lol:

So the first job was to weld up the cut out for the shocker.
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Next was a back light, i had an LED light so just needed a housing for it.
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Cut out.
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And welded it
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Ive shaped it a little , but not finished yet
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Next up was a cut out for the kickstart, cut out and rolled under.
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Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:59 pm
by Toddy
Good work russ you have earned a beer tommorow night now :D

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:40 am
by carlos fandango
Cheers Toddy , might even have two ;)

Re: Ldi or should that be Lid ?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:41 am
by Digger
8-)