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Postby a-teamlambretta » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:36 pm

thinking about getting one of these http://www.pmtuning.co.uk/lambretta-pro ... rear-shock , anyone using one pro's con's ect . cheers simon
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Re: rear shock

Postby Fast n Furious » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:21 pm

Hmmmm... I've considered this one as well Simon.
They are not cheap and I've gotta wonder what advantages you get with this product compared to those alternatives around £100 cheaper?
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Re: rear shock

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:55 pm

Fast n Furious wrote:Hmmmm... I've considered this one as well Simon.
They are not cheap and I've gotta wonder what advantages you get with this product compared to those alternatives around £100 cheaper?


I wondered that too, but perhaps the rebound & compression adjustments (both slow & fast) might be truly independent of one another :?:

I’m not sure of that being the case with any other, but apologise in advance for my lack of knowledge....
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Re: rear shock

Postby Fast n Furious » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:56 pm

I've taken a look at the instructions for a BGM and the R1 conversion. Both have independent Preload, Compression and Rebound adjustments. The R1 is £100 cheaper albeit an re-manufactured unit. I suspect that it would be easier to source whatever parts are needed to service an R1 over a BGM? ;)
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Re: rear shock

Postby dickie » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:37 am

Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:
Fast n Furious wrote:Hmmmm... I've considered this one as well Simon.
They are not cheap and I've gotta wonder what advantages you get with this product compared to those alternatives around £100 cheaper?


I wondered that too, but perhaps the rebound & compression adjustments (both slow & fast) might be truly independent of one another :?:

I’m not sure of that being the case with any other, but apologise in advance for my lack of knowledge....


Independent high and low speed damping? Are you serious? Carl fogarty didn't need it to win several world championships do you really think you do to call round the shops?
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Re: rear shock

Postby Fast n Furious » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:56 am

Actually, I'm looking for something that will deal with the shit horrible potholed road surfaces these days, inclusive of the ones that take me to the shops.
Track racing is getting safer by the day in comparison!
In an ideal world there would be a course that you could attend at some respected testing ground, where there would be a wall, and on this wall would hang every make and variation of all the shocks ever made for your lammy.
You now have the next 2 days to figure out what does what for yourself.
Bring yer own scoot and tools.
So called experts are available for advice.
Sign me up.
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Re: rear shock

Postby Toddy » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:06 am

a-teamlambretta wrote:thinking about getting one of these http://www.pmtuning.co.uk/lambretta-pro ... rear-shock , anyone using one pro's con's ect . cheers simon


I'm sure moth has one of them on his GP mate
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Re: rear shock

Postby Fast n Furious » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:30 pm

The only advantage I can see with the BGM and alike is that they have an adjustable eye to eye static length. Typically, 300-310mm making them suitable for all series 1,2 & 3 models.
Most folk won't need this feature and can probably save a wedge by buying a fixed length alternative.
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Re: rear shock

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:31 pm

dickie wrote:
Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:
Fast n Furious wrote:Hmmmm... I've considered this one as well Simon.
They are not cheap and I've gotta wonder what advantages you get with this product compared to those alternatives around £100 cheaper?


I wondered that too, but perhaps the rebound & compression adjustments (both slow & fast) might be truly independent of one another :?:

I’m not sure of that being the case with any other, but apologise in advance for my lack of knowledge....


Independent high and low speed damping? Are you serious? Carl fogarty didn't need it to win several world championships do you really think you do to call round the shops?


It is listed in the specification sheet by PMTuning.

If you have an issue with that, perhaps you should direct your comments elsewhere, as I was not advocating the PMTuning shock absorber over any other.

If I were to state an opinion, I would perhaps dare to suggest that the young Italian riders manage to hustle their scooters around a racetrack at unprecedented rates & it may be worth looking @ their suspension set up as they have something that works well with the scaffold tubing that forms the basis of our frames.
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Re: rear shock

Postby ladsdad » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:11 pm

Hi All

Just to answer the original question I had one of these shocks fitted a couple of years ago. They are, as stated very adjustable for height, damping etc but I found I ended setting the damping rates to a fairly central setting, proberbly the same as you would find on any good fixed rate damper, so possibly a bit over engineered for the average Lambretta & rider. The major benefit I found was that if you're riding long distance the shock made the ride that bit more comfortable (for me anyway) & enjoyable. Plus I suppose they look the buisness with your pannels off, so one more thing to brag about. As to whether they're worth the money, how deep are your pockets....? :)
I personally use a protek damper now(many other quality damper brands are available) & I'm very pleased with it... Adjustable, re-buildable & British made. I know a few long distance riders who use them with no complaints... You pays your money etc...

Cheers Mark.
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Re: rear shock

Postby dickie » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:26 pm

Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:
dickie wrote:
Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:
Independent high and low speed damping? Are you serious? Carl fogarty didn't need it to win several world championships do you really think you do to call round the shops?


It is listed in the specification sheet by PMTuning.

If you have an issue with that, perhaps you should direct your comments elsewhere, as I was not advocating the PMTuning shock absorber over any other.

If I were to state an opinion, I would perhaps dare to suggest that the young Italian riders manage to hustle their scooters around a racetrack at unprecedented rates & it may be worth looking @ their suspension set up as they have something that works well with the scaffold tubing that forms the basis of our frames.

Apologies. I was drunk last night. I can't even remember writing that.

I must have concluded that being a nob was the appropriate thing to do.
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Re: rear shock

Postby a-teamlambretta » Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:03 pm

Dare I ask about the casa twin front disc :shock:. Anyway thanks for a couple of genuine answers related to my question lol . Cheers Simon
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Re: rear shock

Postby Leotech » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:18 am

dickie wrote:
Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:
Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:
Independent high and low speed damping? Are you serious? Carl fogarty didn't need it to win several world championships do you really think you do to call round the shops?


It is listed in the specification sheet by PMTuning.

If you have an issue with that, perhaps you should direct your comments elsewhere, as I was not advocating the PMTuning shock absorber over any other.

If I were to state an opinion, I would perhaps dare to suggest that the young Italian riders manage to hustle their scooters around a racetrack at unprecedented rates & it may be worth looking @ their suspension set up as they have something that works well with the scaffold tubing that forms the basis of our frames.


I think you'll probably find Carl Fogarty did have high and low speed compression damping adjustments on his rear shock.
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Re: rear shock

Postby dickie » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:59 am

Leotech wrote:
I think you'll probably find Carl Fogarty did have high and low speed compression damping adjustments on his rear shock.


In 1994? Are you sure? I don't recall them being separate until more like 2000.
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