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Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:44 am
by Knowledge

Here is a Tassinari reed valve that I bought direct from China. Fake or (save a) fortune?
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:26 pm
by gp200ts1
I bought a pair for £15. Almost identical to the genuine one I have on the shelf.
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:56 pm
by Knowledge
Have you fitted one already? Is it OK?
I appreciate the that even the pukka V Force reeds are not perfect, but it would be good to find an affordable source of these reeds as they do seem increase mid-range.
I am so intrigued by this reed that I have just bought another two, mainly so I can cut one up to see if I can make it fit into a different flange (and avoid fitting eccentric cones).
My reed has some stick-on “V Force” badges, which have been removed on the photos of the ones I have just ordered from China (you can see evidence of the adhesive).
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:14 pm
by ULC Soulagent
They need a bit of fettling for Ts1 application and I’d like stage 2 reeds if any out there although I’d probably make my own

Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:51 pm
by Norrie Bodge
ULC Soulagent wrote:They need a bit of fettling for Ts1 application and I’d like stage 2 reeds if any out there although I’d probably make my own

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174612963517Fit with the petal guards tho IMO as boost port snaps that part of the small petals
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:19 pm
by ULC Soulagent
Norrie Bodge wrote:ULC Soulagent wrote:They need a bit of fettling for Ts1 application and I’d like stage 2 reeds if any out there although I’d probably make my own

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174612963517Fit with the petal guards tho IMO as boost port snaps that part of the small petals
Like ur thinking on the 2stage reeds but the Vforce reeds are longer n thinner

as I had them laying around so out came the digital measuring tool too no avail

Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:17 am
by lou
These fit TS1....Are they upgrade from standard block and reeds ?
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:06 am
by Andy B.L.C.
Bought a 'genuine' (the price!!) item, over 8 years ago, in waiting for the TS1 230 rebuild. Any more words re, possible fettling required, replacement reeds etc would be well appreciated... Fanx!
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:37 am
by hullygully
I bought some wayyyyyyyyy baaaaackkkkkkk, the fettling to secure them with a manifold didn't phase me it was the thought of carving away the inlt area to make it fit, I don't think its as deep as a Yam one
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:23 pm
by ULC Soulagent
lou wrote:These fit TS1....Are they upgrade from standard block and reeds ?
Yes they fit with a fettle although you need an mb latest manifold.
I’d just fit boyesen reeds if ya don’t want the hassle of tinkering

Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:27 pm
by ULC Soulagent
hullygully wrote:I bought some wayyyyyyyyy baaaaackkkkkkk, the fettling to secure them with a manifold didn't phase me it was the thought of carving away the inlt area to make it fit, I don't think its as deep as a Yam one
The V force fit fine inside( well they do on mine) only downside is that they sit higher outta the intake zone really needing offset cones

Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:50 pm
by ULC Soulagent
Andy B.L.C. wrote:Bought a 'genuine' (the price!!) item, over 8 years ago, in waiting for the TS1 230 rebuild. Any more words re, possible fettling required, replacement reeds etc would be well appreciated... Fanx!
Andy,
I found a British company that does replacement reeds( SHOWE) in fact they do a wide replacement of reeds for likes of Ts1, Imola, mb’s derbi six petal type
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:50 pm
by Fast n Furious
They won't fit until they have been fettled.
The bolt holes are in the wrong position for a TS1 and so the valve needs to be trimmed with a half round file so the manifold securing bolts can pass by.
I have a fondness for using the 6 petal TDR125 reed valve which needs fettling the same way. Works really well with Boysen progressive reeds. It does improve that deadband you naturally get around the 4500 -5000rpm band and genarally makes for a more tractible ride.
As ULC Soulagent pointed out....... On a road scoot, Its definately not recommended to use these valves without the relief guards fitted.
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:19 am
by ULC Soulagent
Fast n Furious wrote:They won't fit until they have been fettled.
The bolt holes are in the wrong position for a TS1 and so the valve needs to be trimmed with a half round file so the manifold securing bolts can pass by.
I have a fondness for using the 6 petal TDR125 reed valve which needs fettling the same way. Works really well with Boysen progressive reeds. It does improve that deadband you naturally get around the 4500 -5000rpm band and genarally makes for a more tractible ride.
As ULC Soulagent pointed out....... On a road scoot, Its definately not recommended to use these valves without the relief guards fitted.
That was Norrie who pointed that out

Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:11 am
by Fast n Furious
My bad.
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:55 am
by Norrie Bodge
This is the case also on the RB kits reed-blocks
A mate broke down doin the C2C... due to a reed petal breaking at the boost port area..
I spoke to Dave at AF when ordering replacements & he says that they only have 1 type available !!
Has anyone found another type of reed-block, with the petal guards fitted that’s compatible for RB kits ?
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:55 pm
by Andy B.L.C.
ULC Soulagent wrote:Andy B.L.C. wrote:Bought a 'genuine' (the price!!) item, over 8 years ago, in waiting for the TS1 230 rebuild. Any more words re, possible fettling required, replacement reeds etc would be well appreciated... Fanx!
Andy,
I found a British company that does replacement reeds( SHOWE) in fact they do a wide replacement of reeds for likes of Ts1, Imola, mb’s derbi six petal type
Ta Shane! 2 birds with 1 stone! Just scored a Bristol LC clubmate an Imola 186 cutdown & was going to post a question about Imola reeds... 1 more focusing question, so my late 90's (?) broadhurst reed block will accept a v-force reed assembly & if fettling is required specifically what...? Ta y'all!
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:56 am
by ULC Soulagent
Andy B.L.C. wrote:ULC Soulagent wrote:Andy B.L.C. wrote:Bought a 'genuine' (the price!!) item, over 8 years ago, in waiting for the TS1 230 rebuild. Any more words re, possible fettling required, replacement reeds etc would be well appreciated... Fanx!
Andy,
I found a British company that does replacement reeds( SHOWE) in fact they do a wide replacement of reeds for likes of Ts1, Imola, mb’s derbi six petal type
Ta Shane! 2 birds with 1 stone! Just scored a Bristol LC clubmate an Imola 186 cutdown & was going to post a question about Imola reeds... 1 more focusing question, so my late 90's (?) broadhurst reed block will accept a v-force reed assembly & if fettling is required specifically what...? Ta y'all!
Andy, without having a 90’s Mb manifold in front of me I couldn’t say for sure if it would need fettling or not, Sorry dear chap
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:19 pm
by Norrie Bodge
The imola kits have a few variations
Another mate with this kit thinks his petals av gone ?
Be interesting if we can find a type with petal guards, that’s compatible over the coming weeks
when I get chance to check it over that is?
V busy at work ATM
Re: Tassinari V-Force Reed valve

Posted:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:36 pm
by ULC Soulagent
Norrie Bodge wrote:The imola kits have a few variations
Another mate with this kit thinks his petals av gone ?
Be interesting if we can find a type with petal guards, that’s compatible over the coming weeks
when I get chance to check it over that is?
V busy at work ATM
They do exist but can’t remember if they came on the original reed block or I bought them somewhere

Also tried them up against the Derbi senda reed block stops, very close

Also the Malossi wispa 360 reed block petal stops are very close
