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gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:12 am
by smithy
I have a huge gap between flywheel fan and cowl.....over 10mm...is there anything suitable I can shape and stick to the inside of the cowling to take up the gap and aid cooling....it is electrex ignition on a Spaniard......my gp with varitronic has very little gap at all
thanks for any help
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:13 am
by pacemaker
Smithy I reckon you have an Indian cowl as the Indian cowls are narrower.
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:48 am
by Digger
Or a series 1....(Note to self read the post properly)

Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:24 pm
by Storkfoot
I suspect the issue is the Electrex flywheel. Anyway, if you search back through your Jetsets, there was an article covering this about a year ago.
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 1:48 pm
by drivera
I have just measured the width of the two types and the Italian Cowlings are 50mm wide and the Indian ones 60mm wide , so if you have an Italian cowling fitted and still have a 10mm gap I would say there is a problem with the fins on the flywheel !!
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:53 pm
by coaster
Use a needle file or a dermal to elongate the holes so that the cowl sits closer to the cowl. This won't be visible when fitted

Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:39 pm
by HxPaul
The Indian fan cowls are deeper to accommodate the fans with the longer fins.
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 6:29 pm
by rossclark
You can also add some packing inside the cowl to narrow the gap.
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:08 pm
by Scooter Paul
rossclark wrote:You can also add some packing inside the cowl to narrow the gap.
That could work. 10mm thick polystyrene tile cut into a 'polo mint' like shape to fill the gap between the blades and the shroud but still allowing air to come in through the grill.
Paul
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:29 pm
by Knowledge
Scooter Paul wrote:10mm thick polystyrene tile cut into a 'polo mint' like shape to fill the gap between the blades and the shroud but still allowing air to come in through the grill.
Paul
I don't think that polystyrene will do the trick, but polythene would be OK. In my first oily rag article, I wrote about minimising the gap between the fins and the cowl in order to stop the air cavitating off the end of the fins.
After I wrote the article, someone wrote to me and suggested that the polo could be made from a polythene chopping board, such as those sold by Ikea. Thanks whoever suggest that.
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:13 am
by smithy
many thanks for all the ideas

Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:11 pm
by mickyb
Just robbed a nylon chopping board from the kitchen, cut to same shape as cowling and now gap is around 3mm. Good idea that
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:16 pm
by Wack
It may have been me but I used an Aldi one

I'd like to know how you ended up with a small gap with a Varitronic as they're like the light AF fins , miles from the cowl?
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:01 pm
by smithy
Wack wrote:It may have been me but I used an Aldi one

I'd like to know how you ended up with a small gap with a Varitronic as they're like the light AF fins , miles from the cowl?
its a stainless cowl ..bought off mb dev a number of years ago..(now powder coated ) ...couldn't be any closer to the flywheel to be honest
cheers!
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:55 pm
by rossclark
mickyb wrote:Just robbed a nylon chopping board from the kitchen, cut to same shape as cowling and now gap is around 3mm. Good idea that
You're welcome
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:50 pm
by Nelly
I know this is an old post, but I'd be interested to see any pics of the bodgery involved to 'convert' a chopping board into a flywheel cowl packer.
How were they fixed and did it aid the cooling of the engine?
I've just noticed I have quite a gap between the fan fins and the cowl too.
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:37 pm
by rossclark
I screwed one through from the inside with nylock nuts on the outside.
I have to admit I'm a little nervous of it coming loose and wondered if cork tile might not be a better choice as the flywheel would just chew that up if it come loose.

Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:45 pm
by Wack
It'll be fine with nylocks.
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:53 pm
by Dazts1
If it was me I'd trim the flycowl to push it closer to the flywheel. I know this means probably welding up the fixing holes and redrilling. Doing this would be the job done once. No chance of your chopping board coming loose and smashing around with your flywheel.
Re: gap between cooling fan and cowl

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Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:07 pm
by Adam_Winstone
For use with small light AF flywheels I buy the Indian long fin cowl, which allows me to cut a strip (incl. all of the existing holes) off and then drill new holes at the position that allows the face of the cowl to sit close to the fins. I then carefully bend/shape the front section so that it flares out to the union with the head cowl.