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Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby 911hillclimber » Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:52 pm

Need to bite the bullet this week and buy 3 new tyres for my stock TV3.
Light use (wear not an issue), simple rolling down county roads, no motorways, hopefully in the sun, but need a good wet tyre if I get caught out..

Huge choice, tyres are very important, so no budge polo-mint tyres for me.

I want whitewalls and the Schwalbe Weatherman looks a good tyre, side tread look extensive and ribbed.
Mich classic (not WW) which is a standard fitment on Vespa P125 etc must be good too?
Conti WW looks bad as the tread does not go well over the corners, wet cornering could be and adventure?

Any thoughts on this typical problem please?

Remember, 500 miles a year, one-up country side cruising, summer only.

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Graham.
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby johnnyXS » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:59 pm

The only way you are likely to get a meaningful reply is if someone has the same scoot and riding habits as you I should have thought.
I probably have the same mileage onthe same roads as you but I only intend to ride in the dry as far as possible so I do not need wet performance tyres . I therefore went for Mitchelin S1 which is a soft compound tyre with good road holding in the dry but not so good wear performance.
All tyre choices are a compromise to some extent . A good wet weather tyre is unlikely to have a good dry weather performance but better wear performance than say the Mich S1. What you gain in wet weather performance with a wet tyre you lose in dry road holding and performance
You could do worse than have a read of MB Dev Marks tyre tests and opinions . http://www.lambrettaspares.com/info/mb-*-tech-articles/tyres-*-whats-right+247.html
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby 911hillclimber » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:16 am

Thanks for the reply, I'll have a read.
Bewildering choice out there.
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby peejay » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:00 am

following your brief:

if it has to be whitewall then Conti K62 (speed rating 62 mph)

Conti 365 will give superb grip in the wet but not whitewall (speed rating 83 mph)
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby bolzenanker » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:38 am

Maybe look at SAVA MC20 whitewall, could well fit the bill. Have one on the rear of one of mine and been ridden in all weathers commuting, no issues, would be happy to buy more and probably will.

http://www.scootertyrestore.co.uk/tyre/ ... u0584.html
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Postby johnnyXS » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:54 am

I've also seen some good reviews for the Sava MC20's they were my second choice
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby davla » Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:07 pm

I guess you're looking for a classic look tyre? For whitewalls I use Continental K62s and for non-whitewall I use Michelin S83s, both good quality in my opinion.
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby coaster » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:30 pm

Please do a search on Schwalbe before buying, especially Weathermans. They hit the market a few years ago and the early ones got rave reviews but something changed in the production and loads of reports started appearing of random bulges and de-laminations. Biggest problem for me (a former fan) is that they have never admitted any fault :shock:

Personally, I will o0nly buy from full on Automotive tyre manufacturers now (schwalbe predominately make mountain bike tyres) like Dunlop and Continental both of whom make excellent scooter tyres.

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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby 911hillclimber » Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:45 pm

Thank you all.
I take the tyre bit seriously, it is a very important area for performance and safety, so keen to get the right tyre.

I had read about the sch' bulging when run underinflated, but liked the look of the block tread on the centre and a grippier design on the sides.

Elsewhere on here there was a discussion recently about the new Dunlops and the Conti 365.
Wish the 365's were in white wall too.

Happy to pay for the right tyre, but want some classic look to them too. Don't want much then... :roll:
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby Nudger » Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:25 pm

If you want a classic look that's good both in wet 'n dry then Michelin S83s all day every day...
But don't forget the most important aspect of tyre performance: always have them at the correct pressure.
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby peejay » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:24 pm

911hillclimber wrote:
I had read about the sch' bulging when run underinflated


they also bulged when run at low speed at correct pressure, i wouldn't touch 'em with a barge pole :o
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby 911hillclimber » Wed Mar 04, 2015 6:55 pm

Thanks, off the list now.
The prices differ so much for the Conti K62 whitewall from £27 odd to nearly £60 (each)!
The S83 looks to be a good buy and performance.
Easy to forget the tube cost.

Issue now is whitewall or black. :roll:
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby Tony Hart » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:21 pm

I swapped from S83s to Heidenau K38s last year and found that I had slightly more confidence in them over the winter. They are black though :P

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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby Scooterlam » Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:29 pm

How about whitewall inserts ?, any good.
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby 911hillclimber » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:08 pm

Inserts, I built a hot rod in the 70's with those 'flappers' we called them.....not a good experience.
I have another thought and that starts with blacks.
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby roli150lam » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:21 am

Sava B14 tyres have a retro look imo.Only in black but a nice looking tyre worth looking at for your scooter.
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby Rich Oswald » Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:13 pm

There's a couple of Conti Whitewalls in the for sale section.
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby 911hillclimber » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:21 pm

Indeed, saw those last night, but will buy fresh ones now I'm used to spend, spend, spend, spe.... with this restoration. :lol:

for some reason I want whitewalls but black are sensible. :roll:
Decision tomorrow,
Mich S83 the Sensible choice,
Conti K62 the Hearts choice.
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby peejay » Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:50 pm

911hillclimber wrote:Mich S83 the Sensible choice,
Conti K62 the Hearts choice.


for your proposed riding these would be on my short list.

my experience over the last 15 years with both makes would say the S83 will last a bit longer, K62 bit more corner grip in the wet, both types made by proper tyre manufacturers :)
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Re: Tyres for summer cruising?

Postby 911hillclimber » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:34 pm

Just read elsewhere on the scooter web that people find the Conti WW sloppy round corners as the trad pattern does not go round the edge of the tyre?
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