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Satnav options

Postby Sticky » Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:13 am

Personally, I run a car satnav in a waterproof case on my lammy, but today Tomtom have released a new scooter-specific waterproof nav.

It runs of an internal 5-hour battery and clips easily to a mirror stem so in theory you can use this even on a 6-volt scooter and pop it in your pocket when you get off the scooter.

http://www.scooterlab.uk/tomtom-vio-scooter-sat-nav-gizmo/

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What do you lot use for navigation on your scooter? Who's still got a Little Chef map? :)
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Re: Satnav options

Postby EddieStone » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:16 am

I like the look of that. Not sure why a commuter needs SatNav unless they have a very poor short term memory.

I use Navmii on my phone. Aall the maps are on the phone so it doesn't even need an online connection. Best of all it's as free as Piers Morgan.

I like the round style.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Digger » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:32 am

Free - I like the sound of that... 8-)

I stopped reading after the £149 bit. :shock:
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Sticky » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:33 am

Never felt like putting my phone on the scooter, even in a "waterproof" case, just seems too risky and not designed to cope with that level of vibration. Google maps in the pocket and a headphone (wired or bluetooth) is ok if you can work from audio only but I like to see a map to understand exactly which turning to take.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby coaster » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:35 pm

I have used a variety of car satnavs as well as my iPhone in a waterproof case on my Lambrettas as well as my commuter GTS. I also use the phone in my pocket quite often working through my Bluetooth equipped helmet. They all work to an extent but at the moment I'm using a soft case intended for bicycles. The clamp fits round my aftermarket mirror stem and the case clips to the clamp securely. The case is big enough to store other stuff as well but the phone slips into an internal pocket behind a clear touch sensitive panel. If you clip it in so that the zip finishes its travel at the bottom corner you can connect a charge lead as well. As with all motorcycle cases, sun reflecting on the panel will render the display invisible which is where the blue tooth comes in handy. The case cost me about £5.00 from either Lidl of Aldi.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Jim Rose » Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:58 pm

I'll stick with my £28 one in the plastic bag
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Tony Hart » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:14 pm

A map and a piece of paper with scrawled on directions! :D

(I will admit to having to stop quite often and spending a lot of time 'geographically challenged' but for me that is part of the enjoyment)

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Re: Satnav options

Postby Covboy » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:20 pm

I used this for IoW...Sat navs tend to send you on boring long roads...I wanted to enjoy the ride down and went through the Cotswolds..
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Re: Satnav options

Postby burnside » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:27 pm

Covboy wrote:I used this for IoW...Sat navs tend to send you on boring long roads...I wanted to enjoy the ride down and went through the Cotswolds..


Bike satnavs are better for that as they have more route options, my Garmin let's you plot routes and upload using the BaseCamp app or you can just chose the 'twisty road' route option on the unit itself. Car satnavs will always favour motorways and A-roads regardless.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Sticky » Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:47 pm

burnside wrote:
Covboy wrote:I used this for IoW...Sat navs tend to send you on boring long roads...I wanted to enjoy the ride down and went through the Cotswolds..


Bike satnavs are better for that as they have more route options, my Garmin let's you plot routes and upload using the BaseCamp app or you can just chose the 'twisty road' route option on the unit itself. Car satnavs will always favour motorways and A-roads regardless.


Like any tool there's a skill to using them. We used my car Garmin to navigate across country on the way to Euro-lam this year and it took me on a great route but trying to find all those unsigned turnings with a paper map would have been a nightmare.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Marty ULC » Thu Sep 01, 2016 4:21 pm

I use a water resistant Samsung s5 inside a waterproof rubber lined hard case running the Tom Tom "go" app.
Plus points:
It talks to my headset, fading the music.
You can plan a journey in conjunction with a map to take you through and avoid certain areas.
At the end of a long day you know you're going to get to the hotel in the middle of a town.
Has been used in torrential rain and for long distances on both my lambrettas and jap bike with no water or vibration damage.

Minus points:
Heavy on the battery use.
I'm sure I cooked the battery on my Samsung s3 by having it constantly changing while in use.
Not glove friendly.
If you have to open the case in the rain it's a pain in the arse drying the screen enough to use once the cover is closed again.
Nice slim phone is the size of one from a decade ago once it's in the case.
Mounting system wore out in Germany this year meaning I nearly lost my phone/camera/satnav down the autobahn.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby bike grim » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:17 pm

Jim Rose wrote:I'll stick with my £28 one in the plastic bag


I'm using the same as Jim and cannot fault it. I leave it on the scooter and if anyone nicks it. I'll buy another.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby burnside » Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:35 pm

Sticky wrote:
burnside wrote:
Covboy wrote:I used this for IoW...Sat navs tend to send you on boring long roads...I wanted to enjoy the ride down and went through the Cotswolds..


Bike satnavs are better for that as they have more route options, my Garmin let's you plot routes and upload using the BaseCamp app or you can just chose the 'twisty road' route option on the unit itself. Car satnavs will always favour motorways and A-roads regardless.


Like any tool there's a skill to using them. We used my car Garmin to navigate across country on the way to Euro-lam this year and it took me on a great route but trying to find all those unsigned turnings with a paper map would have been a nightmare.


Ain't that the truth
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Re: Satnav options

Postby EddieStone » Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:22 am

Marty ULC wrote:Mounting system wore out in Germany this year meaning I nearly lost my phone/camera/satnav down the autobahn.


My Prism Sena has a very thin wire lanyard that ties the camera to the bike. If the mounting system fails the lanyard stops it flying down the road. Might be worth nicking the idea for your phone.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Marty ULC » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:56 am

EddieStone wrote:
Marty ULC wrote:Mounting system wore out in Germany this year meaning I nearly lost my phone/camera/satnav down the autobahn.


My Prism Sena has a very thin wire lanyard that ties the camera to the bike. If the mounting system fails the lanyard stops it flying down the road. Might be worth nicking the idea for your phone.


I did :-D
Went for a belt and braces approach, superglued the loose mounts together and attached a key lanyard just in case.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Donnie » Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:23 am

£150 for what is basically a remote screen for your phone?

Just use the phone mounted in a waterproof case, my setup cost about 25 quid from memory.

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Re: Satnav options

Postby xenia1 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:54 pm

Garmin nuvi 58 is a very good allrounder. Dont often use it but good for finding the more obscure addresses. Good overall euro mapping but some parts of greece and the balear islands especially mallorca a bit hit and miss. Navs are ok as an additiön to a map but never a replacement..
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Toot » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:33 pm

Used Tom-Tom Riders for years on both the scoots and in the van.
Not the cheapest out there but seen me right all over the UK & Europe for the last number of years.
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Re: Satnav options

Postby martin1310 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:40 pm

tom tom riders all the way mate
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Re: Satnav options

Postby Timexit17 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:09 am

Ditto.
Now on my 3rd version of the TT rider
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