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Postby dave411 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:39 am

Well,I made a start this week.Hope it doesn't take too long.

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Bought this in the summer off Snap on,does a really good lob.

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Engine strip down next week,cant wait.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:40 am

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Whoops,this one went missing.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby coaster » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:40 pm

Stripping paint, possibly the most tedious stage. What equipment are you using?
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:35 pm

The soda blasting pot I posted.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:55 pm

Got this back today,well happy. :P



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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dickie » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:57 pm

dave411 wrote:Got this back today,well happy. :P



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is that chrome or nickel?
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:04 pm

Its Ceramachrome,done by Cam Coat.Look like chrome,maybe not as shiney,but still looks good,and wont discolour with the heat.Or so they say,we shall see.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dickie » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:07 pm

dave411 wrote:Its Ceramachrome,done by Cam Coat.Look like chrome,maybe not as shiney,but still looks good,and wont discolour with the heat.Or so they say,we shall see.


i was thinking about getting mine nickel-plated but i know for afact that this will discolour, although possibly only on the swan-neck. Nickel is better than chrome insomuch that it is much more resistant to the elements and won't flake or allow rusting. Anyy idea what cerachrome is like in terms of resisting the weather?

Personally i prefer the finish you have to that of bright chrome which i think looks a little too blingy. Yours has more of a 'factory' look - IMHO.

How much did it cost? I'll probably get nickel anyway as the chap who does mine just throws it in with his main jobs (industrial stuff) and charges me a nominal fee (usually £20 regardless of what i give him)
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:33 am

It was 95.00 plus postage.Cam Coat say it wont discolour,and can withstand 760 degrees,thats quite hot :o
Its a Ceramic Coating,not nickle.Check out their Website,its interseting stuff.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby peejay » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:45 pm

that does look great Dave, hope you fettled it on your motor before getting it coated :)
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby Toddy » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:27 am

Dave , Nice project , Whats your plans for the scooter paint and engine wise longer term ?
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:27 pm

@ peejay, :oops: no I didnt.I must just hope its ok.

@ toddy,I am going to paint it in the same colours,or as near as I can get.Lambretta Paints do a good match for the light Blue,so i am going with that.I will be using spray cans as I have no spraying facilities,and I really want to do everything myself.
Engine wise,I have a Muggelo 198 to go on,with a 26mm Deli,and a Varitronic ignition.GP crank and an AF cassette clutch.I also have an original Taffspeed Stainless exhaust which I bought on a whim,being Welsh,but not sure if I will use it,just stick with the Ancilloti.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby Chadley » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:14 am

If your Ancillotti exhaust is anything like the one I bought, then it lined up and fitted easily with no adjustment needed.

That is until I went to take to retract the stand...
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It required this mod to one of the two U bend sections:
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:10 am

That's what I am hoping for Chadley.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:04 pm

Just re read your post Chadley,i hope mine doesnt do that.
Started to strip the engine today.Everything came apart easily.Couldnt get the gearbox out cause I didnt have the right socket for the nut holding the clutch basket.The rest just flew apart,and it looks like it hadnt been apart for a long time.
Mind you,I have to get the engine mounts out,so no doubt that will be a struggle.Any tips?
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dickie » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:56 pm

dave411 wrote:Just re read your post Chadley,i hope mine doesnt do that.
Started to strip the engine today.Everything came apart easily.Couldnt get the gearbox out cause I didnt have the right socket for the nut holding the clutch basket.The rest just flew apart,and it looks like it hadnt been apart for a long time.
Mind you,I have to get the engine mounts out,so no doubt that will be a struggle.Any tips?


I bought a cheap engine mount tool off eBay. I had to 'notch' it as it wasn't quite right, but no big deal there. This is the first and possibly last lambretta I'll build. But if I'm going to do a job I buy the tools I need. The other option is to fuck it up and end up buying parts that cost more than the tools.

Alternatively I might build another then I'll be laughing.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:32 pm

I have the tool,but i tried it today and one wouldnt budge.I will try some heat on Monday.I agree with what you say about using the correct tools.I have bought all the correct pullers etc,maybe thats why I had no problems getting apart this far?
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dickie » Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:53 pm

dave411 wrote:I have the tool,but i tried it today and one wouldnt budge.I will try some heat on Monday.I agree with what you say about using the correct tools.I have bought all the correct pullers etc,maybe thats why I had no problems getting apart this far?


Sounds like we're in the same boat mate.

Top tip I got from classic motorcycle mechanics; don't use a blowlamp, a heat gun paint stripper is better as it will get your job just as hot, but as it does it more slowly, the heat penetrates deeper and causes more expansion.

I'm a convert; it really does make a big difference. I've just got a cheap Bosch or b&d one and my rule of thumb is heat small jobs for one song and bigger ones for two. This of course needs to be modified if "won't get fooled again" or "November rain" come on the radio.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dave411 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:02 am

Or Close to the Edge by Yes :lol: :lol:
Of course,the problem with heating it slowly,is that you run the risk of allowing the heat to transfer to the mount,which will then start to expand also.My line of thought is to heat it quickly with a hot flame,then try and pull it out.
I will try both and let you know what happens.
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Re: Daves Li resto

Postby dickie » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:54 am

dave411 wrote:Or Close to the Edge by Yes :lol: :lol:
Of course,the problem with heating it slowly,is that you run the risk of allowing the heat to transfer to the mount,which will then start to expand also.My line of thought is to heat it quickly with a hot flame,then try and pull it out.
I will try both and let you know what happens.


Aye, but aluminium has a higher coefficient of expansion than steel, plus it's larger (in this case), so it will expand more than the mount even if their temperatures both rise by the same amount.

Honest guvnor, it works.
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