Acewell speedo

[Cheersdude]

It the moment I have the battery and all the other electrics connected to the red from the reg/rec. should the battery be connected to the red/white. It says battery charge in the diagram, so I'm guessing this is a dc output above 12 volts to charge the battery, or have I got that totally wrong??
If I'm right (probably not) would this then back feed through the stator when the engine off to feed the alarm and speedo memory

[foremanbob]

Not sure about the Variatronic....

However reading the diagram the Red/White wire is raw voltage from the stator... if so this would have to be regulated before going to the battery.

The battery would not bleed back through the stator to power your equipment from the battery when the engine is not runing... you would need to add another feed direct from the battery.... And theres the rub...mixing AC & DC on the same circuit will not work

[Cheersdude]

Update do not connect the red/white to the battery!!!

Just disconnected the red from the battery and connect the red/white, it started to cook the battery! Oops!

[Donnie]

the battery output from the regulator on a varitronic is simply a trickle feed, it doesn't output 12+ volts at all.

[Nelly]

That regulator looks to be a similar design to the Vespa 5 pin regulator

[Wack]

The earlier pic of the stator may have been mine from a while ago. My stator had a misfire so I removed the resin to check the terminals. To power the Acewell you need a fused wire from the battery to a switch then on to the speedo. Turning the power off doesn't lose the speedos settings. Beedspeed now sell an dual AC/DC ignition switch that allows AC lighting etc and a DC output to power ancillaries on the same key positions.

[Nelly]

Wack, I think it is your pic off the scooterotica site.
The ScootRS switch I have used has 2 separate switches in too, I've utilised 1 to switch a relay for the battery power, as I have mentioned in the other thread.

[Cheersdude]

Got the mph sorted, check it against my sat nav and its spot on. Still not got to the bottom of the speedo flashing on and off though. Checked the earths which all look good and are tight. As it only happens when the headlights on could it may be a load problem. As in running the lights, speedo, temp gauge and a couple of small LED's to much for the stator ?

[MK Monty]

I'm still struggling with how this is wired. So bear with me I don't know the switch you have but your Variatronic outputs AC and only ac. You will have a regulator that will give you a stable 12v ac. This supply's all your lights through the normal brown or purple feed to the front end. Your regulator also has a trickle feed in DC to charge the battery. That's what you connect your speedo to. It's not connected to the lights so even if you are not charging the battery your speedo should work till the battery is flat. Having a relay is just icing and shouldn't affect how it works. Try disconnecting the battery from the rest and put a wire to the speedo direct. I would take another back to the neutral so you are not getting anything odd from the earths. It will prove your speedo if nothing else.

[Cheersdude]

Basically everything is connected to the dc output from the bgm reg/rectifier, lights, speedo, temp gauge,alarm, horn and battery. The ignition switch is a ac/dc.

From what I read below it may be the varitronic isn't capable of carrying that much load! Looks like I'm going to have to change the lighting back to ac and just have the goodies on dc.

Taken from the lambrettaspares website:-
DC (direct current): OUT with DC for charging the battery. With ignition systems capable of high power output, consumers can be fed directly without a battery used (e.g. Satnav systems, water pumps, rev counters, speedos and all sort of other toys).

[MK Monty]

The Variatronic is not your best stator for power to your light setup agreed. BUT it is caperble of supplying your lights BUT ON AC NOT DC. The TRICKLE charge is DC. I recon you will be lucky if it's knocking out much more than 10W -20W your AC coils will be doing more like 80w and you don't seem to be using it. If you want FULL DC go Wassell with a bgm stator and get a variable ignition adjuster like the Agusto or chiseled speed one. Lots on the market all have pros on cons. Yours is a tried and tested system though expensive in my opinion for its not so good lights.
Change your lights back to the AC feed and leave the Toys on DC. A 35w headlight bulb is more than a toy.

[Cheersdude]

Thanks Monty, i'll stuck with the varitronic for now and adapt the wiring for AC lighting.