My first restoration: TV175 Ser 3

[Paul Slack]

Hi Graham,

If you don't wanna spend any more, you don't HAVE to fit the battery mate. Just go with your original plan and blank it off. With the electronic ignition and new loom, it should be perfect like that anyway. The battery is only really used for parking lights or any accessory you want to add. The battery itself is optional to you.

[Paul Slack]

with regards selling, i hope you are joking.

what you get in money will not replace what you are building, which to you, is priceless.

[911hillclimber]

Paul, the TV has it's original 6 pole mag and is still 6 volt as it left the factory. Take your point about the battery fitment, but if it was originally like it then it is 'just' another £30 + all the straps etc which were not on the scooter when I got it.
I was going to make a custom 2 stroke oil can holder in the battery space...

As to selling, not a chance yet.

I rebuilt a super little Barlotti kart, totally original which was a lot harder than this TV and sold it as I would not have the time to race it. Sold it restored for the cost of all the parts and services I put into it. That was a mistake, in 3 years it has tripled in value, but the hours I poured into it.
I hope to use the TV in the mid week when everyone else is at work and the sun is out just zipping around locally. It will be my wife who wants to sell it due to the inconsiderate drivers towards 2 wheels; not so sure it was any different in '67.

The TV is smashing thing, full of style and 'Italianess'.. good grief, that sounds sad!

Above all it will be far more useable now I'm retired.

[911hillclimber]

More hours in the garage and the TV is coming together now.
More expensive small boxes keep arriving with parts, now parts that were missing off the scooter when I got it, but getting there.

Found a reasonable place for some tyres and tubes, and settled on a bog standard exhaust in the end to be ordered today/tomorrow.
Apart from a few flat threads to deal with it has been the usual fettling of the parts to make tem fit and work.

So much poor quality stuff (no matter who you buy it from, no matter what you pay).

Very soon it will be down to three things to be done; get it going, get it painted, get it registered.

[Dimitrios_231]

If you can find one,
I can recommend the Tutto S3 without the mushroom,
top one on the pic the other is a Casa S3 with the restrictive mushroom baffle inside.

Great looks and fitting.

Tutto at top.






Tutto at bottom.

[CHRIS in MARGATE]

The seat suits it nicely. Where was it from and what sort of price if
I might ask ?

[911hillclimber]

Both of those silencers look really well made, something I'm not used to with many of the new parts I've paid £2000 for..
I was planning to get the standard system in Scoot Rest at £120, but will look into the ones you mention tomorrow.

As to the seat, I wanted something brighter than straight black and saw these on EEb@y.
Came today, nice finish and fit. The rear bracket I was missing and bought new had been bitten off an old VW and came from a different supplier.
The rear catch certainly did not line up, but a lot of filing and bending and it slams locked ok now and sits even to the top of the frame.

It came from a V.X.Doan in Southsea, Portsmouth, eb@y # 121493696444 and cost me £64.99 delivered to me. Come in various colours.
I will be painting the relief in the side panels and the horn/ front mudguard covers in a deep red and this was the darkest they do.

It looks great and very 'summer' imho.

[Dimitrios_231]

Scoot Rest stock the Casa.

Scootopia and Cam Lam used to stock the Tutto.

[dickie]

This any use to you?
http://www.lambretta.co.uk/shop/exhaust-ancillotti-clubman-42mm-p-7246.html

You're spoilt for choice when it comes to "standard" silencers.

[911hillclimber]

A lot of people have said anything beyond bog standard are loud.
I had an Ancillotti in the late 60's and it was loud, something I don't want.

That is a very good price though for the kit.
The Tutto is a lot more, £180+ vat/pack I guess so can be close to £250 verses around 1/2 that.

Scoot Rest sell the CASA with mushroom (I presume the hook in the Ancillotti is to remove it?) for £120 complete.

[mickyb]

The hook is a spring puller for the springs on slip joint

[911hillclimber]

Yes, I have just seen a good larger pic of the An 42mm and its double slip joint with springs...one day you too will be as old as me!

It looks a nice bit of kit.
Very tempted, bit off standard, tut, tut.

[mickyb]

I probably am as old as you, or damn near it.

Ancillotti is quite noisy compared to standard

[rossclark]

But nothing compared to the reverse cone with the VW tail pipe...

Noisy pipes save lives

[911hillclimber]

Yes, it seems to come across that way.
The CASA unit from Scoot Rest seems right and will suit the TV I'm trying to rebuild.
Thanks to all for your advice, much appreciated.

[911hillclimber]

Exhaust came today, a very standard looking CASA silencer and U pipe.

All excited I popped the pipe on the cylinder (who designed that one exhaust nut to be there?) and left it slack to allow a bit of movement.
Offered the silencer up...
Only 12mm out, not a stud would line up, what a let down. There was no way (and no amount of rubber hammer thumping) it was going to fit. I thought this stuff was good?

The silencer on its own fits a dream so that was the starting point. Cut the pipe in half, fitted the manifold/cylinder half to the barrel, so all I had to do was to link the two parts.

Some cutting, some trimming and some MIG welding and 3 hours later this was all in place. What do people do who do not have these tools at home do when faced with this cr@p quality?
To make it worse (and I should have noticed and thought of it) the new system does not come with a slip joint clamp. Even the CASA clamp does not come with a new bolt!
AND then the case top cover got all gouged trying to get the silencer off.

Why sell a new system without a new clamp. Trip to Halfords tomorrow.
Quality of parts in this sector is really bad compared to classic cars.

[CHRIS in MARGATE]

Sometimes I despair. My wife says "I can hear you cursing away in that garage; what's the matter love?"

It is just so atrocious when supplying parts for an engine that is basically identical in fixing points be it 1959 or 1989. That is the third pipe that I have seen recently that didn't fit. It's not as if we are a load of kids embarking on our first spannering adventures.

I recently bought a complete choke cable and had to file the nipple down dramatically so that it would fit in the choke lever.

Incredulous !

[Shaun]

I recently bought a complete choke cable and had to file the nipple down dramatically so that it would fit in the choke lever.

That bugs me as well

That and the cable ferrules not fitting in the adjusters

[911hillclimber]

I thought at first (being a Lambretta restoration virgin) that it was the people I bought from, but not so, I've had poor parts from everyone!

Generally I've stuck to one supplier now and they provide excellent delivery, next day tracked when the bundle is together. The Exhaust came from them and others sell the same thing from the same manufacturer, I have no gripe towards them.

If I sent (at my cost) the pipe back I would get much the same back!
I will give CASA my feedback.

If though you were a pro restorer doing a scooter for a customer on a fixed price, this would erode the margins!

[Dimitrios_231]

I recommended earlier the Tutto exhaust,
there was a reason