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Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

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Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby landybretta » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:56 pm

Removed the rear hub on my series 3 LI150 Special to find everything covered in oil.
I assume the oil seal has failed.
Can this be replaced with the bearing and shaft in place or does everything have to come out including the bearing to replace the oil seal.
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby MickYork » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:45 pm

can be replaced from hub side without any difficulty......... :?
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby landybretta » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:51 pm

MickYork wrote:can be replaced from hub side without any difficulty......... :?


Thank goodness for that. :)

Thanks
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby Shaun » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:46 pm

And if that doesn't fix,
It will be that little 'O' ring :-/
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby HxPaul » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:07 pm

Shaun wrote:And if that doesn't fix,
It will be that little 'O' ring :-/


On the layshaft and all the gearbox has to be stripped down and the layshaft removed..............Just hope its only the oil seal !
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby soulfecker » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:07 pm

I thought I had a leak in the rear hub seal. When I removed the hub, there was oil over the back of the crank case as well as the hub, and I realised that my oil breather was blocked and oil was being forced out of the gear change shaft o ring. Check this first, it will save you a whole lot of unnecessary work!

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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby landybretta » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:14 pm

Thanks Guys.

Fingers crossed it's the oil seal or the breather.....................but knowing my luck :cry: :cry:
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby Toddy » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:06 am

Also I know very rare but check the bearing is not spinning in the casing I've seen this before :(
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby MickYork » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:02 am

Toddy wrote:Also I know very rare but check the bearing is not spinning in the casing I've seen this before :(


Yup......last time I had an oil leak in the hub I changed the seal.....no joy, still leaking. I did a full strip down with the intention of changing the "O" ring on the layshaft. When doing the strip I spun the casing over and the rear hub bearing just fell out :o

Don't know if the bearing was worn or whether the casing had enlarged, but changed with a new Casa bearing (and new O ring) and ran fine with no leaks.
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby landybretta » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:11 pm

Toddy wrote:Also I know very rare but check the bearing is not spinning in the casing I've seen this before :(


Yep, bearing not free but can be turned in casing.
Parts ordered, engine out and beer in fridge :D
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby landybretta » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:16 pm

landybretta wrote:
Toddy wrote:Also I know very rare but check the bearing is not spinning in the casing I've seen this before :(


Yep, bearing not free but can be turned in casing.
Parts ordered, engine out and beer in fridge :D


Bearing very loose on strip down. Almost 1.25thou smaller than new replacement.
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Re: Rear hub oil seal replacemet...help

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:22 pm

Bearing very loose on strip down. Almost 1.25thou smaller than new replacement.


If I understand correctly, the new, replacement bearing is probably the correct size & the lay-shaft/hub should be the beneficiaries of the improvement in fit.
I hope that the fit of the bearing outer into the crankcase ‘journal’ is about right.

Ideally, there should be a clearance of 0.0013” to 0.0001” which would equate to a light transition fit. Any sloppier than that should be remedied, as should any fit tighter.
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