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Which kit to replace old TS1

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Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Martin FONSC » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:38 pm

My old tuned TS1 has bit the dust with a big gouge in the barrel when the piston ring location pin has come out.

Wondering what to fit next? RB220 or Casa SS225?

Need everything new from crank up though to exhaust.

What do you all reckon?
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby MickYork » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:51 pm

All depends what you're looking for I suppose, touring, round town riding, 2 up, motorways, etc

I'm a big fan of the Avanti kits. I've set mine up in several different formats (gearing, exhausts, carbs, etc) and you can get it to do most things.
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Blaginit » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:29 am

Is there any way to stop spray back from carb
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Norrie Bodge » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:46 am

Blaginit wrote:Is there any way to stop spray back from carb


Minimise it by using a reed valve manifold
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Jim Rose » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:23 am

The GT Kit has proved it's worth as a 200 and up
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby MickYork » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:05 am

Blaginit wrote:Is there any way to stop spray back from carb


I use a Breathsweet filter and have no issues, although I agree the reed valve would help as well.
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Shuggie » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:48 am

why not put an iron liner in the kit?
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Toddy » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:32 pm

Shuggie wrote:why not put an iron liner in the kit?


Agree
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Norrie Bodge » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:25 pm

Shuggie wrote:why not put an iron liner in the kit?


or if buying new? PM me i`d be interested in it :?:
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:51 pm

Perhaps you are considering the opportunity to ‘upgrade’ from a TS1...

However, besides the excellent advice you’ve received, Langcourts are just one of several companies that can repair damaged barrels:

http://www.langcourt.com/page34.html
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby mark1 » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:23 pm

Tune the TS you have and get it re-plated.

Plenty of options as you have got to replace the crank. 60-62mm stroke 115 rod Wossner piston.

The options are limitless.
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby dscscotty » Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:39 pm

I to would suggest liner, if you were happy with the old kit? or you could get some more work undertaken, addition of extra boost ports etc.
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Martin FONSC » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:07 pm

Kit is already lined. An old MB stage 4 with a rotax conrod. Was considering replacement over repair. Will probably get the repair done as new kit will also need a new crank and probably exhaust.
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:12 pm

If the barrel is already lined, won’t it take a re-bore?

What size is the existing bore?

Remember, any list of suitable pistons on a seller’s list is not necessarily the only ones available ;)

You may need to add or subtract packing from the barrel base, or, as another option, re-rod your crank. However, the crankshaft con-rod bearings are subject to wear just like any other part of the top end so this can be a good thing.

If you can bore out the damage of your barrel & fit a bigger piston, the money saved against a new kit could even be spent on a bigger stroke crank & that really could be the best solution all round... :)
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Martin FONSC » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:26 pm

Barrel is already oversized and piston needs to be 18 mm little end not 16. It is/was running Honda CR 250 Moto cross piston. I will see what MB says when he is back from his tour of Europe.
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:12 pm

If the bore is larger than the largest readily available over-size (Ø72 mm) then you may have trouble.

I’m sure you know what you’re doing.

Good Luck with whatever you decide. ;)
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Scooterlam » Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:33 pm

Martin FONSC wrote:Barrel is already oversized and piston needs to be 18 mm little end not 16. It is/was running Honda CR 250 Moto cross piston. I will see what MB says when he is back from his tour of Europe.


Richard taylor does little end conversion bearings if that helps.
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Re: Which kit to replace old TS1

Postby Jimmers » Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:01 pm

Gt kit. Great imo
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