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My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby Feersum Injun » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:20 am

Petrol in the float? Float needle sticking?? Choke engaged???
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:41 pm

Feersum Injun wrote:Petrol in the float? Float needle sticking?? Choke engaged???


Choke opens and closes fine. Flat not leaking (held under hot water and no bubbles). Needle is free.

Set up on 30phbh with bgm clubman on tuned gt186

128 main
Atomiser av266
Pilot 55
Choke 70
Float valve 400 red tip
Mixture screw 1 1/2 turns out.

I'm at a loss here.
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:14 pm

This isn't very pretty but surely it wouldn't affect running? Or would it?

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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby MickYork » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:16 pm

certainly won't do it any good ..........are they metal filings ?

What's the filter on the carb' look like ?
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:32 pm

dickie wrote:This isn't very pretty but surely it wouldn't affect running? Or would it?

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You could spread that on your chips! I think you should check carb filter (as suggested) & run any fuel through your tank & keep filtering it through a paint filter (that fits into a funnel) until you've cleared any cr@p out of the tank & fuel lines then strip the tank again to clean the tap. It's amazing what can get through...
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:42 pm

Thanks gents but everything south of the tank is immaculate. I've stripped the carb and it's clean as a whistle.

But I did discover this....

First pic is how it should be...

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Second pic is what I found....

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I must add that it has run happily like this for a year. Unless it somehow happened during the dyno session. Also I tried another carb; did I get muddled and put my carb straight back on?

It's the mixture screw in case you didn't realise. Can't try it tonight though. Unhappy family.
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:46 pm

:idea: Fingers crossed for you, but that looks a likely cause...
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Mon May 22, 2017 9:11 pm

I hate to admit defeat but I'm lost here :( . I just changed the petrol tap and it's no different. I don't suppose there's anyone in the Newcastle area who's good with lambrettas and has an evening spare this week? Ill buy you a pint; or 20.

The gordian knot had nowt on this.
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Mon May 22, 2017 9:28 pm

I could lend/send you a Dell'Orto 30 to substitute but it's solid mount. Is yours?

I feel your pain, BTW!
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Mon May 22, 2017 9:40 pm

Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:I could lend/send you a Dell'Orto 30 to substitute but it's solid mount. Is yours?

I feel your pain, BTW!


Thanks for the kind offer but mine is rubber mount. Anyway I've tried a different one to no avail. There's nothing wrong with it but it doesn't work!
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dscscotty » Mon May 22, 2017 10:14 pm

Did you say in an earlier post a 400 fuel valve? also have you tried it with no fuel cap on?
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Mon May 22, 2017 10:20 pm

dscscotty wrote:Did you say in an earlier post a 400 fuel valve? also have you tried it with no fuel cap on?


That's right scotty but I've replaced the 400 with a 300 and yes I've tried with no fuel cap.

I am wondering about float height but have no idea how to measure or adjust it. Just a possibility that the tang got bent when it was on the dyno?
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Mon May 22, 2017 11:29 pm

With acknowledgements to Grandpa, this includes float height adjustments (pages 9-10):

http://www.rotaxjetting.com/PDFs/Docume ... Manual.pdf
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Tue May 23, 2017 7:07 am

Warkton Tornado No.1 wrote:With acknowledgements to Grandpa, this includes float height adjustments (pages 9-10):

http://www.rotaxjetting.com/PDFs/Docume ... Manual.pdf


Excellent thanks. That's much easier to what I'm used to doing in the old days with a bank of mikunis! I'll do it tonight when I get home. 20 quid says it's not the problem but I'm fast running out off straws to clutch at.
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby mainstand » Tue May 23, 2017 5:38 pm

If you inspect the reeds & find bits missing, take your exhaust off & rod it through, then shake it out. I've had broken reeds blocking my pipe up before.
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Tue May 23, 2017 7:19 pm

mainstand wrote:If you inspect the reeds & find bits missing, take your exhaust off & rod it through, then shake it out. I've had broken reeds blocking my pipe up before.


Thanks mate, but I've had the reed valve out to inspect and it was perfect.
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Tue May 23, 2017 8:01 pm

Float height is bang on. Ive just done another leak check and I can at least say that aspect of my engine building is beyond reproach.

Last gasp is to try new fuel. If that doesn't work I'm selling it.
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby nastro azzurro » Tue May 23, 2017 8:17 pm

Try another tank.
I had very similar symptoms a few years ago and tried everything you have and more.
Last gasp was change of tank and all was perfect.
Tank didn't appear to be the problem, fuel flowed as it should through the tap and tap filter looked clean.
Obviously the vibration when running was making the debris in the tank interrupt the fuel feed.
Tank looked fine so didn't consider it to begin with.
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Tue May 23, 2017 9:03 pm

nastro azzurro wrote:Try another tank.
I had very similar symptoms a few years ago and tried everything you have and more.
Last gasp was change of tank and all was perfect.
Tank didn't appear to be the problem, fuel flowed as it should through the tap and tap filter looked clean.
Obviously the vibration when running was making the debris in the tank interrupt the fuel feed.
Tank looked fine so didn't consider it to begin with.

That's the sort of advice that I'd usually dismiss as nonsense but as I've no better ideas and there is some debris in the tank I think I'll try rigging up a dummy tank. I've got a couple of spares sitting there so it's easy enough. Fresh fuel first though as it's easier. Thanks.
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Re: My lambretta doesn't work - any ideas?

Postby dickie » Thu May 25, 2017 12:59 pm

Tank immaculate. New fuel. New fuel tap. ANOTHER new cdi.

I give up.

A man in Doncaster is taking a look on Saturday. I've heard he's quite good with lambrettas.
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