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Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Storkfoot » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:09 am

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I am after one longer than this please. Does anyone know a supplier?

Jem Booth used to get them made but no longer does. Lincs Lambretta had one advertised on eBay with some less than complimentary feedback as to fit.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby gaz_powell » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:24 pm

Paul
Andy Francis does a SS one, without one in my hand i would say longer the photo.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Storkfoot » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:54 pm

gaz_powell wrote:Paul
Andy Francis does a SS one, without one in my hand i would say longer the photo.
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Yeah, I have seen that one too, Gaz. It looks no longer to me, sadly.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby gizmo » Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:37 pm

I believe beedspeed do an extended one if your really desperate. Could you have a couple made. K2 customs or local engineering shop. Smile and act dumb and they might do it cheapish ;)
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Storkfoot » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:09 pm

gizmo wrote:I believe beedspeed do an extended one if your really desperate. Could you have a couple made. K2 customs or local engineering shop. Smile and act dumb and they might do it cheapish ;)


I have thought of getting a couple made up locally. I am not desperate enough to consider our friends from Grimsby. Thanks for the reply though :)
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby missing lynx » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:18 pm

This may sound a daft question but why do you need them?
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Storkfoot » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:36 pm

Routing of cable over TS1 inlet manifold and around spark plug. I have a short extended top hat in the frame at the moment (the same as my photo I suspect) but it could do with a tiny bit more loop to clear the plug. If someone made longer cable outers, you wouldn’t need to bother.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Knowledge » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:49 pm

Scooter Loopy John definitely used to make them. You can find him on eBay as “bigbadbarry”, which is odd cos he’s a lovely bloke.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby coaster » Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:23 pm

wouls 2 or 3 washers give you enough Paul, easy enough to slot them.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Storkfoot » Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:38 pm

I need it extending by a good centimetre so don’t want to use washers, mate. I’ll try and contact John Madison. Thanks, Martin.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby shane BBoys » Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:02 am

Paul.
Lincs Lambretta are showing 2 x different sizes on Ebay.

https://protect-eu.mimecast.com/s/VNSdC ... ebay.co.uk


https://protect-eu.mimecast.com/s/1rWnC ... ebay.co.uk




Cheers Shane.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Storkfoot » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:23 am

shane BBoys wrote:Paul.
Lincs Lambretta are showing 2 x different sizes on Ebay.

https://protect-eu.mimecast.com/s/VNSdC ... ebay.co.uk


https://protect-eu.mimecast.com/s/1rWnC ... ebay.co.uk




Cheers Shane.


Thanks, Shane. Yes, the longer one is what I am after. I did see these but I also saw some negative feedback saying they didn’t fit. If John Madison can’t help, I will try one as the Lincs advert does say that returns are accepted.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby shane BBoys » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pm

£6 ish I am sure you can stretch to that if not you can use it as a vase.

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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Storkfoot » Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:57 pm

shane BBoys wrote:£6 ish I am sure you can stretch to that if not you can use it as a vase.

Cheers Shane.


I know but it would be a pain in the arse to unclip the cable, to gain access to it, to then find it doesn’t fit.

John Madison was checking whether he had one for me. If he doesn’t, I’ll buy the Lincs one.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:34 pm

As I have never encountered such a requirement, please excuse my ignorance :D but, I think if an extension to the OEM top hat could be gained by fitting an item such as in the link herewith:

https://www.mandp.co.uk/products/6mm-th ... ble-594320

Of course, that example may not be suitable, so a thorough check on the OEM cable (inner & outer) as well as the OEM top hat would need to be done, but I imagine a standard top hat drilled/tapped to suit an adjuster would result in an 'adjustable' top hat. Obviously, the adjuster would be fitted front side of the rear shock mount.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Storkfoot » Wed Apr 27, 2022 1:42 pm

Just to finish this thread off, I took a couple of pictures to show where I am now. I have two extenders fitted front and back and this gives a nice shallow loop over the inlet manifold and away from the plug cap.

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As an aside, I do recommend rear brake cables that are nylon lined. I’d never had one until about 6 months ago. They make for a nice smooth action.

Oh and, yes, the next time the engine as out, I’ll get the stripped thread in the casing sorted :D
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby gp200ts1 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:46 pm

I like the braided brake cable, where did you get it from?
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby shane BBoys » Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:12 pm

Storkfoot wrote:Just to finish this thread off, I took a couple of pictures to show where I am now. I have two extenders fitted front and back and this gives a nice shallow loop over the inlet manifold and away from the plug cap.

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As an aside, I do recommend rear brake cables that are nylon lined. I’d never had one until about 6 months ago. They make for a nice smooth action.

Oh and, yes, the next time the engine as out, I’ll get the stripped thread in the casing sorted :D



Glad you have it sorted which did you go with in the end?

Cheers Shane.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Storkfoot » Wed Apr 27, 2022 4:53 pm

The cable is from MB. Scooter loopy John (John Madison) provided the extended tip hats. I could have probably got away with one, just.
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Re: Extended top hats for rear brake

Postby Mark97 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:25 pm

Storkfoot wrote:Routing of cable over TS1 inlet manifold and around spark plug. I have a short extended top hat in the frame at the moment (the same as my photo I suspect) but it could do with a tiny bit more loop to clear the plug. If someone made longer cable outers, you wouldn’t need to bother.


I do have very limited stock of my XL version of my QR2 cables - which are designed to go over the engine mount and over an LTH manifold on an RB cylinder with a mammoth head - happy to send you a video of the routing if it helps - they are longer than the normal QR2 cable as I like this routing for the race scooters.....
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