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Rich Oswald wrote:Interesting to say the least and stranger things have happened in the past. What documentation have you? IMO at the end of the day with proof this may be a very rare scooter however without conclusive evidence it is simply an SX150 and the price you pay may have to relect that. Interested to hear more.
Rich'
Stevie W wrote:................ However although the frame has an SX150 number , it is not an SX frame it is definitely a GP frame .
NorthernJordan wrote:If it's date of first registration is backed up by the original Italian documents, then it's a very intriguing scooter. How much more that makes it "worth" be that monitory or purely interest is up to the individual.
However, if it is just the UK logbook that states that I would suggest that is more of dating mistake?
Surely if it's a GP it will have GP frame number regardless of it's date of registration?
Stevie W wrote:Rich Oswald wrote:Interesting to say the least and stranger things have happened in the past. What documentation have you? IMO at the end of the day with proof this may be a very rare scooter however without conclusive evidence it is simply an SX150 and the price you pay may have to relect that. Interested to hear more.
Rich'
The current owner has quite a bit of paperwork and has attempted to get to the bottom of it with little success. However although the frame has an SX150 number , it is not an SX frame it is definitely a GP frame plus it has some unusual electrics fitted to it. The seller is genuine as is the bike, it's just being able to exactly pigeon hole the bike.
As a matter of interest the price I have been quoted to buy it is well below the going price of any SX200 or Italian GP200 but in the price range of a decent SX150.
Rich Oswald wrote:NorthernJordan wrote:If it's date of first registration is backed up by the original Italian documents, then it's a very intriguing scooter. How much more that makes it "worth" be that monitory or purely interest is up to the individual.
However, if it is just the UK logbook that states that I would suggest that is more of dating mistake?
Surely if it's a GP it will have GP frame number regardless of it's date of registration?
Not necessarily Jordan. If it's a pre production model for advance publicity for the GP then Innocenti probably didn't want to issue the new GP numbering sequence in advance so merely used an SX 150 number for simplicity. Stranger things have happened there.
Rich'
NorthernJordan wrote:Rich Oswald wrote:NorthernJordan wrote:If it's date of first registration is backed up by the original Italian documents, then it's a very intriguing scooter. How much more that makes it "worth" be that monitory or purely interest is up to the individual.
However, if it is just the UK logbook that states that I would suggest that is more of dating mistake?
Surely if it's a GP it will have GP frame number regardless of it's date of registration?
Not necessarily Jordan. If it's a pre production model for advance publicity for the GP then Innocenti probably didn't want to issue the new GP numbering sequence in advance so merely used an SX 150 number for simplicity. Stranger things have happened there.
Rich'
I get what you are saying... But if it's a genuine 200 would they not have used a SX200 frame No.?
Is 2 months prior to launch not the kind of time where they would be going into full production and building up some stock?
Rich Oswald wrote:
Not necessarily Jordan. If it's a pre production model for advance publicity for the GP then Innocenti probably didn't want to issue the new GP numbering sequence in advance so merely used an SX 150 number for simplicity. Stranger things have happened there.
Rich'
Rich Oswald wrote: Have you tried contacting Vittorio Tessera and asking him about it. He just may be able to shed some light on it. Rich'
martin1310 wrote:i think this is the same bike that some one was trying to convince me it was original factory bike.if it is the same one the engine bump stop as been cut off. in my opinion if it's the same one it is a sx1500 frame with a 200 engine.(the first dl/gp200 was january 1969) and there was only one made in 1969
Stevie W wrote:martin1310 wrote:i think this is the same bike that some one was trying to convince me it was original factory bike.if it is the same one the engine bump stop as been cut off. in my opinion if it's the same one it is a sx1500 frame with a 200 engine.(the first dl/gp200 was january 1969) and there was only one made in 1969
I suspect that it is the same bike as it has no bumpstop.
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