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Re: TS1 225 swept compression ratio.

Postby Storkfoot » Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:06 am

17.8 & 5.4 = 23.2cc giving a corrected compression ratio of 10.63 and an uncorrected of 6.55.

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Re: TS1 225 swept compression ratio.

Postby Storkfoot » Fri Jul 04, 2025 6:44 pm

Fast n Furious wrote:Downsizing the front sprocket will make it more difficult to kick over especially if you have a light flywheel.
Change it back to an 18 and see what difference it makes and go from there.


I’m going to follow your advice now, F&F. My injury weakened left leg, even with heavy work boots, can’t cope with kicking this TS1 over. So, back to 18 front sprocket, push up tensioner CST3. Hopefully, that’ll work.
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Re: TS1 225 swept compression ratio.

Postby Adam_Winstone » Fri Jul 04, 2025 11:28 pm

Storkfoot wrote:17.8 & 5.4 = 23.2cc giving a corrected compression ratio of 10.63 and an uncorrected of 6.55.

Thanks for your help :)


Other way around..
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Re: TS1 225 swept compression ratio.

Postby Storkfoot » Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:20 am

Minor detail :D :oops:
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Re: TS1 225 swept compression ratio.

Postby dickie » Sat Jul 05, 2025 7:29 am

You could change to a gp200 box and use 20/47 sprockets to get a similar final drive.

If you want to keep the exhaust characteristic.
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Re: TS1 225 swept compression ratio.

Postby Adam_Winstone » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:37 am

Storkfoot wrote:Minor detail :D :oops:


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Re: TS1 225 swept compression ratio.

Postby Adam_Winstone » Sat Jul 05, 2025 10:46 am

Both the geometric and corrected are a tad too high IMO.

Whilst high compression can bring back power lost through the rev range by raising exhaust duration, it can actually stifle over-rev (thereby top speed) because it opposes piston rotating past TDC. It'll also cause running temps to rise and require that you reduce ignition advance, losing some of the grunt that it just regained... but bringing back the ability to rev / spin over TDC.

It's all about balance of factors that influence the overall performance of the motor, rather than considering compression, or any other factor, in isolation.
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Re: TS1 225 swept compression ratio.

Postby Storkfoot » Tue Jul 08, 2025 8:26 pm

dickie wrote:You could change to a gp200 box and use 20/47 sprockets to get a similar final drive.

If you want to keep the exhaust characteristic.


Aye but where do you draw the line? They are a bottomless pit of money and, to be honest, I’m unsure whether I love the feel (or noise) of a TS1 with expansion pipe as much now as I did ten years ago.

The 18 front sprocket has made a positive difference but kicking it over is still pretty hit and miss. On some occasions, it is really easy and on others, it is really hard. To the extent that I can stand on the kickstart lever with both feet (I’m 11 stones) and the lever will only slowly depress.

I have decided to go to the Chuck Swonnell rally on it this weekend and see how it is. If you are there and see a red and gold GP being kicked and thrashed with a branch, John Cleese style, that’ll be me :)
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Re: TS1 225 swept compression ratio.

Postby Fast n Furious » Tue Jul 08, 2025 10:45 pm

TBH Paul,
I think I would have the same issue with my TS1 if I was lucky enough to only weigh in at 11 stone!
What kickstart pedal are you using?
The short GP style ones won't help you here.
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