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TV 175 Will not start

Postby Littlewheels » Thu Aug 22, 2024 9:35 pm

Just rebuilt my engine to original spec including stator/battery/coil & voltage regulator.

Intial start up was fine and ran smooth but after leaving scooter overnight it ran lumpy than nothing?

Checked timing, checked carb, and there is a spark at the plug.

Does the the ignition need the battery charged to work?

Any help appreciated?

Trying to set off for I.O.W :roll:
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Scooterslag » Thu Aug 22, 2024 10:09 pm

Hiya, you getting fuel through? checked the plug etc, if not blocked carb/ fuel tap problems. You don't need a charged battery to start the engine- it just powers the horn/brake light/parking light if its a 6v DC set up. Cheers Paul
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Littlewheels » Thu Aug 22, 2024 11:07 pm

Yeah plug has spark. Also checked points/timing?
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:00 am

I hate to say it, but have you done a leak down test since the starting issue?

The other things to check would be the condenser & plug cap, which should preferably be unsuppressed.
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Littlewheels » Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:19 am

Yes leak down test was all good.
New condenser and plug cap unsuppressed.
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Scooterslag » Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:48 am

Littlewheels wrote:Yeah plug has spark. Also checked points/timing?


No I meant is the spark plug wet with fuel/ flooded or dry from poor fuel flow or no fuel.
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby hullygully » Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:16 am

try starting with air hose off the carb.
is there a smell of fuel?
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:31 am

If you’ve done the ‘finger test’ with the HT lead & your hair’s still on end, presumably you’ve got very good earths.

Have you got another flywheel to try with a good matching taper?
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby dickie » Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:31 pm

Do any lambretta owners still have hair?
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby ULC Soulagent » Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:17 am

dickie wrote:Do any lambretta owners still have hair?

Not us old farts :lol:
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Sat Aug 24, 2024 11:37 am

dickie wrote:Do any lambretta owners still have hair?


:lol: Ears & nostrils in abundance….. :)
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Storkfoot » Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:27 pm

Hopefully, the lack of update from Littlewheels is indicative of him getting to IOW and having a blast since he arrived. :D
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Fast n Furious » Sun Aug 25, 2024 1:41 am

Possibly a sheared woodruff key?
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Cgt75b » Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:56 pm

Any updates on this issue, was it resolved? And if so how.?
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Littlewheels » Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:52 pm

Firstly sorry for the delayed reply but didn't return from IOW until yesterday - on the train! :)

Looked for advice at the rally and after fully charging the battery the scooter started first kick however after 5 mins running it started to get lumpy then cut out.

Tried again but without lights and ran ok until I turned ignition key back to lights on?

Must be a stator plate issue or the voltage regulator so going to look at those tomorrow.
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Warkton Tornado No.1 » Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:50 am

I suggested trying another flywheel but understand that was probably not possible. However, the magnetism might well be down on what it should be….
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Littlewheels » Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:53 am

OK so replaced the voltage regulator & still the same - started, ran lumpy then turned ignition key to lights and she died :roll:

I have now removed the stator and will swap it with another I have on another engine however I can't help thinking that the replacement may be faulty too so does anyone know who could test & repair this one? I phoned Anthony at Scootronics & he no longer does repairs only product/part sales.

Thanks
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby hullygully » Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:09 pm

is it a 4-pole or 6-pole bud?
I've stators & flywheels you can have
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Storkfoot » Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:22 pm

Have you checked and rechecked your wiring to the wiring diagram? I am no auto electrician but this sounds very much like something is wrong in your headset causing the ignition to short out when you activate the lights.

I have found those early ‘60s looms to be a bit of a head scratcher before now. The rear brake light switch blowing and cutting the ignition was a particular high point in my Lambretta education.
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Re: TV 175 Will not start

Postby Littlewheels » Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:39 pm

Yes it's a 6 pole Ducati.

Good point with respect to checking the wiring. I am sure I would have checked last time I worked on the headset but I will look anyway. :roll:
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