Jockey Boxtenstop Headlight

[coaster]

There's loads of different types. The most common being a hard plastic shrouded single cable with heat shrunk insulated spades, bullets etc.
Here's a page to look through, boiler spares can be as much as a minefield as car spares.
http://www.gasboilerparts.co.uk/search. ... oduct_id=0

Cheers Nelly, they don't come cheap do they I took the bullet and purchased a long extension twin flex cable from ebay for £5.99. I states that the connectors wull fit the majority of after market ballasts....we'll see on that one but even if they don't, I'm sure I can work something out I'm currently envisaging myself looking like something from Ghost Rider

[coaster]

Update r anyone interested, the HID extension cable arrived and as I feared, it wasn't a plug and play for the cheap HID unit I have but it does fit the unit I have waiting to go in my Marcos. However, the ignitor connector fitted the Ballast unit so I just soldered and heat shrunk the other connections for the other end of the ignitor and both ends of the negative return for the ignitor. It all work perfectly and I took it out last night for a blast round the Norfolk lanes.....Unbelievable
This is me stopped on a totally unlit country lane:

Dip beam


Main Beam


The lane was flanked with by fields and at that point there is hardly any verge. I wish I'd stopped earlier when there was a wide..ish verge with trees and fences as the beam spread illuminates from edge to edge.

I did try the standard Jockeys 35/35 watt lamp in the drive way and have to say that it is also pretty good, not as good as the HID but most would be happy with it. I haven't bothered posting up comparison pics as the camera seems to compensate for low light and most of the shots look the same although they don't to the naked eye. My H4 conversion with 60/55 was noticeably dimmer though.



Colin

[landybretta]

How did the Jockeys 35/35w compare with the H4 conversion.
Thanks

[coaster]

How did the Jockeys 35/35w compare with the H4 conversion.
Thanks

The Jockeys is a big improvement on an H4 in a standard light unit, the beam is much sharper and 35 watts gave a batter light than the 60/55 in the old set up although thinking about it, some of that might have been down to me using the 7 Aph battery off the scoot so the voltage could have flagged a bit. Most riders would be very happy with the Jockeys light.

[Nelly]

Impressive Colin

[landybretta]

How did the Jockeys 35/35w compare with the H4 conversion.
Thanks

The Jockeys is a big improvement on an H4 in a standard light unit, the beam is much sharper and 35 watts gave a batter light than the 60/55 in the old set up although thinking about it, some of that might have been down to me using the 7 Aph battery off the scoot so the voltage could have flagged a bit. Most riders would be very happy with the Jockeys light.

Thanks for that.
Jockeys conversion added to my birthday list.

[Donnie]

The Jockeys is a great upgrade, I love it. Im almost tempted to swap the bulb for a 55w but am a bit wary as it's a plastic lens.

[landybretta]

The Jockeys is a great upgrade, I love it. Im almost tempted to swap the bulb for a 55w but am a bit wary as it's a plastic lens.

I spoke to Jockeys a couple of months ago enquiring about the purchase of a unit and the possibility of using a larger bulb. They did not say definitely not to but I was advised that being a plastic lens they would not recommend it.

[Donnie]

aye that's what I thought

[coaster]

Go DC and HID, many times brighter than an H4 60/55 and runs cooler than a 35 watt Halogen

[Donnie]

already dc but dunno if i can be arsed going HID what with the ballast etc.

[coaster]

already dc but dunno if i can be arsed going HID what with the ballast etc.

It does add another level of complexity....I can visualise Storkfoot shaking his head in dismay

[Storkfoot]

I am still in shock that a lambretta headlight can produce a beam of light that resembles something from a German watchtower in one of those '60s war films!

[coaster]

I am still in shock that a lambretta headlight can produce a beam of light that resembles something from a German watchtower in one of those '60s war films!

The shock will be to me when my wiring goes wrong and I get 30,000 volts sparking up and down my arms like something from Frankenstein's lab or Ghost Rider

[MK Monty]

I hope you have a warning sticker, May cause death to any would be tea leaf. You have a duty of care.
Any short will blow the ballast as long as it's not you doing it. Mines on its way on a slow boat. I have gone for the shrouded in and out type over the flip flap type so time will tell. Twice the price of yours but still under 20 quid for 2.

[Cgt75b]

Ok fellas needing a bit of advice.

I have the Jockeys light fitted with Wago connectors, getting rid of the connector bock, it's fitted no problem.

The issue I am having is when I switch to side lights, the front is on but no rear light, but the brake light works.

Switch it the other way and everything works ok, It is something really simple, maybe you fellas who have already fitted one can help ?

Looking like a great piece of kit, just a few teathing problems.

Thanks in advance.

[MK Monty]

You don't say if it's got an ignition key with lights on that or an LI lights on the bar type switch. Normally you should have a live supply to the blacks when you select any lights. The black is the rear light, you should have the speedo light of that as well. Your front sidelight is normally of the yellow but this is only on until you go headlight when the front sidelight goes off. If you want it on all the time take it to the black. Hope that helps

[MK Monty]

Well it was a slow boat from China not helped by my friend the postman who refuses to leave anything with next door, so away with work get home to find a card. Then the buggers are shut for Easter and then Im away again.
Anyway
this is the one that I ordered.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360902318717? ... EBIDX%3AIT
Very impressed with the wireing, The Ballast is small enough but it arrived with a bloody big relay that is bigger than the Ballast. I had to sacrifice my horn and made a bracket using the same bracket but it all sat too high to get the horncasting on the series 1. At least I didn't have to worry about getting the leads up to the headset so its all under the horncasting. Yes I also had to open out the reflector about 1 mm to get the lamp shroud inside, once in it fitted well. It seems to be the same as coasters in that it flicks up and down. It takes its power from a mains feed that I simply connected to the brown feed from the stator. I think it was intended to take its feed from a car battery but my battery is connected to brown anyway. I lost the inline fuse that came with it, its fused at the battery anyway. The loom supplied came with a long lead to go from one car head light to the other side so this was snipped off. On that basis the relay could have gone under the frame loop and the long feed cable could have come up with the gear cables so that could be an option for others. The only drawback was that the leads from the ballast to the lamp itself is only about 15 " long. Its not pretty under the horncasting but works well. I looked at fitting it all inside the leg shield toolbox but The hole through the leg shield would be enormous to get the plugs through. The relay is a great idea as it uses the 3 pin plug from the original headlight socket ( cut off and hard wired) to switch Hi lo so the switch will be fine.I also used the Waggo connections as recommended they get the thumbs up from me..
Unfortunately I didn't do any before and after pictures but the light coming out is way better than the old 60/55w I was using and the HID is only 35W

[Cgt75b]

Hello again

I have the Jockeys wired up and fitted now, the dipped beam is great ! However the high beam is dissapointing . I am just wondering if the wires are in the wrong place ? Scooter is a series 2 no ignition switch no kill switch. The red wire coming from the switch, which wire does that connect to on the headlight ?

Thanks for any help

[MK Monty]

The dipped filament is the one with the small metal shield on it full beam is the one at the back.
The dip on the bulb is the middle flat terminal should be white if jockey used the same socket on all his lights
That leaves blue full beam and green ground